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Subject: Raw chat log of 2009-01-16 telecon
Mark Combellack: Agenda: - Roll Call http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j - Appointment of scribe. List attached below - Agenda bashing - Approval of minutes from January 12th http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/30636/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-01-12.doc Issue Status: Open: 41 1. Review action items: Action Items that I believe are done: 2009-01-12-01: DaveB to reply to the liaison committee with the list of other SCA Specifications that the SCA-J specifications depended. Action Items that I believe are still to be done: 2008-07-15-2: Vladimir to produce a proposal for JAVA-2 2008-10-06-1: Editors to fix all the other remaining ed issues for WD04 pointed out by Mark, SimonN and Vamsi 2008-10-06-2: Anish - Work with OASIS Staff to get CD01 published - blocked by package name appeal 2008-10-20-1: Simon to write new proposal with textual changes for JAVA-76 2008-11-11-3: Simon to provide proposal for JAVA-6 2008-11-11-5: MikeE and Dave to write up a proposal to JAVA-1 covering the options decided at the Nov F2F 2008-11-11-7: Mark to propose a delta to Simon's action (2008-11-11-6) on JAVA-25 to add support for message correlation on call backs 2008-11-11-8: SimonN to write spec change proposal to resolve JAVA-19 as directed at the Nov F2F 2008-11-11-12: Mark to write proposal for JAVA-46 drawing inspiration from the chat log of day 2 of the November F2F 2008-11-11-13: Dave to work on proposal for JAVA-60 2008-11-11-21: Mark, Jim and Mike to describe their use cases for JAVA-30 2008-11-11-22: Mark to draw up some wording for Direction 1 (as discussed at the November F2F) for JAVA-62 2008-11-11-23: Mark (and others prepared to help) to investigate the WorkManager JEE spec and determine its applicability to SCA for JAVA-62 2008-11-11-27: SimonN to raise issue on brain-damaged definition of @Service annotation (see comments in Nov F2F raw chat log) 2008-11-11-33: Simon to write up proposal for JAVA-67 (not in previous minutes but Simon is sure he has this action item) 2009-01-05-02: Simon to find use cases for conversational interactions 2009-01-05-03: Simon to illustrate his proposal for Java-95 with use cases from action item 2009-01-05-02 2009-01-05-04: Jim to illustrate his proposal for Java-95 with use cases from action item 2009-01-05-02 2009-01-09-01: Vamsi to produce proposal for JAVA-117 2009-01-12-02: Editors (Anish) to include proper wordings for issue 99 in the spec inline with the resolution 2009-01-12-03: Editors (Anish) to include proper wordings for issue 52 in the spec inline with the resolution 2. Jira re-organisation a. Jira Status updates * JEE/Spring/EJB Binding issues marked as Deferred * Updated priority of issues based on their importance * 6 Blockers, 6 Critical, 19 Major and 10 minor * We now have 41 Open issues b. Duplicate Issue: JAVA-115 is duplicate of JAVA-94 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-115 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-94 3. Accepting New Issues None at this time 4. Blocking Issue discussion a. JAVA-28: Package Name Changes http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-28 Appeal result: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200901/msg00037.html b. JAVA-25: Callback Simplification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-25 Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200812/msg00015.html Simon to continue discussion of his proposal 5. Critical Issue discussion a. JAVA-87: Java-related C&I specs needs to define how effective CT is synthesized http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-87 No proposal b. JAVA-60: Sharing Java artifacts across contributions http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-60 No proposal c. JAVA-54: Section 7.1 of the Java CAA Specification is unclear http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-54 No proposal d. JAVA-27: Security Annotations in generated Component Type http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-27 No proposal e. JAVA-6: @AllowsPassByReference requires more detailed description http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-6 Blocked by ASSEMBLY-97 f. JAVA-1: Accessing SCA Services from non-SCA component code http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-1 Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200811/msg00032.html 6. Other Open Issues discussion d. JAVA-30: "Process" Scope http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-30 proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200812/msg00006.html e. JAVA-65: There is no lifecycle defined for SCA Components http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-65 proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200811/msg00095.html f. JAVA-102: Need to have a Name parameter on the @Service annotation proposal: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-102 g. JAVA-62: Clarify what a Component Implementation can do with threads proposal: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-62 h. JAVA-77: A remotable service SHOULD be translatable into a generally accepted standard for a service, such as WSDL 1.1 or WSDL 2.0 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-30 proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200901/msg00029.html 7. Deferred blocking issues (Waiting for resolution of ASSEMBLY-94) a. JAVA-95: Simplified stateful implementation mechanism to replace conversations http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-95 Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200812/msg00021.html Comments from Jim: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200812/msg00098.html 8. AOB --------------------------------------------------------------- Rotating scribe list: Peter Walker Sun Microsystems (1) Roberto Chinnici Sun Microsystems (2) Peter Peshev SAP AG (2) Ron Barack SAP AG (3) Michael Beisiegel IBM (3) Sanjay Patil SAP AG (3) Vladimir Savchenko SAP AG (1) Jim Marino Individual (4) Vamsavardhana Chillakuru IBM (2) Pradeep Simha TIBCO Software Inc. (5) Mike Edwards IBM (5) Yang Lei (2) Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (1) Bryan Aupperle IBM (5) Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (5) Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (5) Simon Nash Individual (3) Meeraj Kunnumpurath Individual (2) Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (7) Simon Nash: i am listening to some very nice music Mark Combellack: Same - just waiting for Dave to activate Vamsi: Scribe: Vamsi anonymous morphed into anish Vamsi: Agenda bashing Vamsi: No changes Vamsi: Topic: Approval of minutes Vamsi: Minutes are approved. Vamsi: Topic: Review of action items Vamsi: anish: item 2008-10-06-2 do we need to change the package name now that ISSUE 28 is resolved. Vamsi: AI: Mike, Anish and editors to work on CD02 Vamsi: AI-2008-10-06-2 is now complete. Vamsi: Topic: JIRA reorganization Vamsi: 6 blockers and 6 critical to be included by Feb-23 (new date is 2nd March?) Vamsi: Bryan: when will the deferred issues be undeferred post 1.1? Vamsi: Topic: 2 b. duplicate issue Vamsi: Simon: 94 is specific to @Property and @Reference. Feels it is not a duplicate. Vamsi: Topic: Accepting new issues Vamsi: None. Vamsi: Topic: Open Issue discussion Vamsi: ISSUE 28 Vamsi: Resolve ISSUE 28 by using org.oasisopen as package name. m: Anish s: Simon Vamsi: motion passed unanimously Vamsi: ISSUE 25 anish ... and if you use openoffice, things are way off anish why don't we just use PDF, would be much simplier Mike Edwards: yes Vamsi: Simon takes through the proposal attached in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200812/msg00015.html Vamsi: Mark suggests to change the text at the end of sec 6.7.4 Mike Edwards: "Mike" rather than "Mark" (Embedded image moved to file: pic32032.gif) Vamsi: ah (Embedded image moved to file: pic02431.gif) Vamsi: Topic: Critical Issue Discussion Vamsi: Only one has proposal Vamsi: Mark asks for Volunteers Vamsi: ISSUE 87 has no owner. Vamsi: ISSUE 60 is taken by Simon(?) Dave Booz: 60 is taken by me Dave Booz: 6 is taken by simon Vamsi: Thanks Dave Vamsi: Motion: Resolve issue 87 by removing sec 10 from C&I spec. seconded by Dave. Vamsi: m: Mike s: Dave Mike Edwards: Motion: Resolve Issue 87 by removing Chapter 10 from the Java C&I specification (WD02) - section title is Mike Edwards: 10Specifying the Component Type anish: we should change the target for this issue then Vamsi: Motion passed unanimously. Issue 87 is resolved. Vamsi: ISSUE 1 Vamsi: Nothing to discuss now. Need to wait. Vamsi: Topic: Other Open Issues discussion Vamsi: ISSUE 30 Vamsi: Proposal in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200812/msg00006.html Vamsi: Issue discussion deferred to next call Vamsi: ISSUE 65 Vamsi: Deferred Vamsi: ISSUE 102 Vamsi: Proposal in the JIRA http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-102 Vamsi: Simon suggests to add a "name" attribute. Vamsi: Straggler roll call Vamsi: AOB
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