[14:46] Mark Combellack: - Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j
- Appointment of scribe. List attached below
- Agenda bashing
- Approval of minutes for 20th April 2009
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32212/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-04-20.doc
0. Administration
- Issue Status: Open: 15
1. Review action items:
Action Items that I believe are done:
2009-04-20-01: Simon to send an updated proposal for JAVA-98
Action Items that I believe are still to be done:
2008-11-11-22: Mark to draw up some wording for Direction 1 (as discussed at the November F2F) for JAVA-62
2008-11-11-23: Mark (and others prepared to help) to investigate the WorkManager JEE spec and determine its applicability to SCA for JAVA-62
2. List B Issues - Nice to resolve before Public Review
a. JAVA-98: Can annotations be inherited
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-98
Updated proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200904/msg00103.html
Updated Java C&I: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/32230/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-wd07%20issue98-rev3.pdf
Updated Java CAA: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32218/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd02-rev4%2Bissue98-rev2.pdf
b. JAVA-153: Java CI should have corresponding changes in JAVA-125
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-153
Proposal in Jira
Latest discussions: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200904/threads.html#00084
3. Blocked List B Issues - Nice to resolve before Public Review waiting for updates/proposals
None
4. New Issues (Requires 2/3s of Voting members to open)
None
5. List C "10 Minute" Issues
a. JAVA-1: Accessing SCA Services from non-SCA component code
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-1
Latest discussions: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200904/msg00031.html
Updated Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200903/msg00227.html
Updated Proposal (PDF): http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/31871/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd02-rev3%20Issue1%20rev%204.pdf
6. Other List C Issues
a. JAVA-139: Default value for SCA property is not supported for java implementations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-139
Outline of proposal in Jira
b. JAVA-127: Long running request/response operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-127
Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200812/msg00089.html
c. JAVA-143: Guidelines for dealing with cyclic references refers to an impossible situation
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-143
Proposal in Jira
d. JAVA-131: @Callback injection could be NULL (expanded to include refs, property and re-injection and callback
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-131
Proposed direction for resolution: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200904/msg00002.html
7. AOB
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Rotating scribe list:
Ron Barack SAP AG (3)
Michael Beisiegel IBM (3)
Sanjay Patil SAP AG (3)
Jim Marino Individual (4)
Pradeep Simha TIBCO Software Inc. (5)
Vamsavardhana Chillakuru IBM (3)
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (2)
Meeraj Kunnumpurath Individual (3)
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (8 )
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (9)
Yang Lei (6)
Graham Charters IBM (2)
Simon Nash Individual (7)
Bryan Aupperle IBM (10)
Mike Edwards IBM (9)
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (11)
[15:01] Ashok will join in 5 minutes
[15:03] Mike Edwards: my line seems to have gone dead
[15:04] Mike Edwards: are the rest of you still on?
[15:04] Martin C: mine too
[15:04] Mark Combellack: i am still on the call
[15:04] Martin C: who cut the atlantic cable
[15:05] Dave Booz: Mark C is still on with us
[15:05] Mike Edwards: I just dialled back in and again - nothing
[15:05] Mike Edwards: Calling the US #
[15:05] Mike Edwards: now
[15:06] Mike Edwards: OK, I'm on the line now using the US dial-in #
[15:06] Simon Nash: i am having problems dialing in
[15:07] Simon Nash: i got through the passcode but nothing happened
[15:07] Mark Combellack: redialing brb
[15:07] Mike Edwards: You could use my dial-in if you like
[15:07] Martin C: it cant be sun spots and the sun is quiet at the moment
[15:07] Mike Edwards: it's the Assembly numbers
[15:07] Simon Nash: yes please... can't afford to pay for an hour calling the US
[15:08] Mike Edwards: Switch the Assembly numbers for now:
[15:09] Mike Edwards: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/event.php?event_id=16089
[15:09] Mike Edwards: Dial-in:
AUSTRALIA 1-800-880-502
AUSTRIA 0800-999-852
BELGIUM 0800-4-8476
CHINA A 10800-712-1196
CHINA B 10800-120-1196
DENMARK 8088-6506
FINLAND 0-800-1-12603
FRANCE 080-511-1518
GERMANY 0800-101-4261
GREECE 00800-12-6178
HONG KONG 800-964-131
HUNGARY 06-800-15557
INDIA 000-800-852-1214
INDONESIA 001-803-011-3507
IRELAND 1800-992-123
ISRAEL 1-800-9214065
ITALY 800-985-431
JAPAN 00531-12-1143
MALAYSIA 1-800-80-8109
NETHERLANDS 0800-023-1708
NEW ZEALAND 0800-443-787
NORWAY 800-11873
POLAND 00-800-1211129
PORTUGAL 8008-12250
SINGAPORE 800-120-4059
SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-93405
SOUTH KOREA 00798-14800-6312
SPAIN 800-099-376
SWEDEN 0200-887-682
SWITZERLAND 0800-000-248
TAIWAN 00801-137-553
THAILAND 001-800-1206-65088
UNITED KINGDOM 0800-279-9395
USA 866-203-1705
PARTICIPANT PASSCODE: 338256
[15:09] anonymous morphed into anish
[15:10] Ashok: Anish call the Assembly number
[15:10] Mike Edwards: Assembly line is running now
[15:11] anish: dialing right now
[15:12] Martin C: scribenick: Martin C
[15:12] Martin C: Topic: Agenda
[15:13] Martin C: Bryan, new issue on list.
[15:13] Martin C: Mark C: if time at the end
[15:13] Martin C: agenda approved
[15:13] Martin C: Topic: Minutes
[15:14] Martin C: Approval of minutes for 20th April 2009
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32212/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-04-20.doc
[15:14] Martin C: Minutes approved w/o
[15:14] Martin C: Topics: admin
[15:14] Martin C: Topic: AI
[15:15] Martin C: 2009042001- done
[15:15] Martin C: Topic: B list issues
[15:15] Martin C: JAVA-98: Can annotations be inherited
[15:15] Martin C: Simon goes thru his proposal
[15:16] Martin C: start with the CAA (rev2)
[15:18] Martin C: change sca annotations to sca policy annotations
[15:19] Martin C: line 784, para moved up and some wording changes
[15:20] Martin C: fixed erraneuos bold fonts in examples
[15:21] Martin C: s/erra/erro/
[15:23] Martin C: Anish: line 785, contradiction with 782
[15:25] Martin C: Simon: needs thinking so as not to introduce a dependancy on C+I
[15:25] Martin C: Anish: could be said in the abstract
[15:28] Martin C: 7.8.2. to add text to the effect of, excpt for 1) setter methods with the @ref annotation
[15:29] Martin C: 2) setter methods coresponding to setter methods corespoding to the c+i spec
[15:31] Martin C: Simon: not exact wording yet
[15:34] Martin C: Dave: need to re-do the transactions
[15:35] Martin C: 8.4, 8.8 have tx that need revisiting
[15:36] Dave Booz: Remove the use of @managedTransaction and replace with @Requires form of transaction intents in 8.3 (several places)
[15:39] Martin C: Mike E: rev 2 word doc doesnt seem to match the pdf
[15:40] Martin C: Prob just versions of word
[15:40] Martin C: Simon to double check
[15:40] Martin C: Move on to Java C+I
[15:41] anish: c&i: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/32230/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-wd07%20issue98-rev3.pdf
[15:41] Martin C: Section 8, 376
[15:42] Martin C: 376/378 added as was incomplete
[15:44] Martin C: line 386/389, dave seems happy with the change
[15:53] Martin C: Simon will do another rev, but getting close to resolving, poss on monday
[15:54] Martin C: Issue 127
[15:55] Mark Combellack: Actually issue JAVA-153
[15:55] Mark Combellack: JAVA-153: Java CI should have corresponding changes in JAVA-125
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-153
Proposal in Jira
Latest discussions: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200904/threads.html#00084
[15:56] Martin C: sorry
[15:56] Mark Combellack: np
[15:57] Mark Combellack: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200904/msg00105.html
[15:57] Mark Combellack: I believe Simon is talking about the above email
[15:58] anonymous morphed into anish
[15:59] Martin C: Mike E: still not convinced the change is necessary
[16:00] Martin C: Dave: still not getting the broader view
[16:00] Martin C time almost up and i have a call to get on to
[16:01] Mark Combellack: ok Martin, if you need to drop then I'll take over scribing the last bit
[16:01] Mark Combellack: Thanks for scribing thus far
[16:02] Martin C: i am dropping...chat monday
[16:04] Mark Combellack: I'm going to call time any moment now as we have overrun
[16:05] Mark Combellack: meeting adjourned
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