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Subject: Raw Minutes for 4 May




Bryan Aupperle, Ph.D.
STSM, WebSphere Enterprise Platform Software Solution Architect

Research Triangle Park,  NC
+1 919-254-7508 (T/L 444-7508)
Internet Address: aupperle@us.ibm.com
[10:16] Mark Combellack: - Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j
- Appointment of scribe. List attached below
- Agenda bashing
- Approval of minutes for 1st May 2009
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32363/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-05-01.doc


1. New Issues (Requires 2/3s of Voting members to open)

a. JAVA-160: Remove Section 8.6.2 (and sub sections) as it is out of sync with the Policy FW spec
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-160
Proposal in Jira


2. Vote for specifications public review

a. Vote for public review of Java CAA & C&I specifications
Latest CAA:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32361/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd02-rev8a.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32360/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd02-rev8a.doc

Latest C&I:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32340/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-wd10.doc


3. AOB

a. Straggler roll call


---------------------------------------------------------------
Rotating scribe list:

Ron Barack SAP AG (3)
Michael Beisiegel IBM (3)
Sanjay Patil SAP AG (3)
Jim Marino Individual (4)
Pradeep Simha TIBCO Software Inc. (5)
Vamsavardhana Chillakuru IBM (3)
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (2)
Meeraj Kunnumpurath Individual (3)
Yang Lei (6)
Graham Charters IBM (2)
Bryan Aupperle IBM (10)
Mike Edwards IBM (9)
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (11)
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (9)
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (10)
Simon Nash Individual (8 )
[10:36] Bryan Aupperle: Scribe: Bryan
[10:37] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Agenda bashing
[10:38] Bryan Aupperle: Bryan: PR vote is actually a set of votes: CD, PR, Length of PR, and vote threshold for opening new issues during PR.
[10:38] Bryan Aupperle: We are now 2/3 quorate.
[10:39] Mark Combellack: 2. Vote for specifications public review

a. Vote for CD of Java CAA specification
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32361/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd02-rev8a.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32360/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd02-rev8a.doc

b. Vote for CD of Java C&I specification
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32340/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-wd10.doc

c. Vote for public review of Java CAA & C&I specifications

d. Vote for length of PR

e. Vote regarding 2/3rds for new issues during public review
[10:40] anish btw did the PDF i had generated looked ok. I know, with Simon's work this is moot. But still curious. I looked at the .doc thru my version of Word and OOo 3.0 and the PDF indentation matched. But since I don't have the latest version of word, I can't tell if I'm seeing the same indentation that Dave/Simon/Mike are seeing.
[10:41] Bryan Aupperle: Discussion about the proper CI draft for the vote.
[10:41] Dave Booz sorry anish, i saw simon's first and didn't look at yours
[10:41] Simon Nash: hi Anish.  I saw a non-indented bullet in the appendix and also in the inline text
[10:41] Mark Combellack: 2. Vote for specifications public review

a. Vote for CD of Java CAA specification
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32361/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd02-rev8a.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32360/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd02-rev8a.doc

b. Vote for CD of Java C&I specification
sca-javaci-1.1-spec-wd10-fixed.doc
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200905/doc00002.doc
sca-javaci-1.1-spec-wd10-fixed_withLinks.pdf
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200905/pdf00002.pdf

c. Vote for public review of Java CAA & C&I specifications

d. Vote for length of PR

e. Vote regarding 2/3rds for new issues during public review
[10:43] Simon Nash: to Anish: in what I did, the bullets were indented in both places.  I also made a few other formatting updates and fixed some comments.
[10:44] Bryan Aupperle: Agenda accepted as revised
[10:44] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Approval of minutes for 1 May 2009
[10:45] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Minutes approved
[10:45] anish simon, i didn't look at the appendix, but the section looked fine to me. Interestingly, I did not see a problem where generating the PDF results in the Word doc changing. My line numbers matched too. Strange.
[10:45] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Java-160
[10:45] Bryan Aupperle: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-160
Proposal in Jira
[10:46] Bryan Aupperle: Dave reviews issue.
[10:46] Bryan Aupperle: Motion Dave, second Simon Open Java-160
[10:46] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution Motion passes w/o
[10:47] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Dave, second Simon Resolve Java-160 by removing 8.6.2 and subsections from CAA.
[10:47] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[10:48] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Vote for CD of CAA specification
[10:48] Bryan Aupperle: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32361/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd02-rev8a.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32360/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd02-rev8a.doc
[10:49] Bryan Aupperle: Ashok: We need to apply Java-160
[10:49] Bryan Aupperle: Mark: It has been applied.
[10:49] anish: CAA: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32360/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd02-rev8a.doc
[10:50] anish: JCI: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200905/doc00002.doc
[10:51] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Anish, second Dave - Accept the linked documents as CD03 of JCAA and CD01 of JCI.
[10:52] Bryan Aupperle: Ashok: The changes will need to be accepted.
[10:55] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Anish - Ammend motion with note that editors will need to accept all changes and change front matter to have correct information.
[10:55] Bryan Aupperle: Discussion about comments.
[10:56] Bryan Aupperle: Motion is seconded by Simon.
[10:57] Bryan Aupperle: s/changes/changes and comments/
[10:58] Vamsi: s/changes/changes and remove all comments/
[10:59] anish: Motion: Anish - Ammend motion with note that editors will need to accept all changes, remove all comments and change front matter to have correct information.
[10:59] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Anish,second Simon - Ammend motion with note that editors will need to accept all changes, remove all comments and change front matter to have correct information.
[10:59] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[11:00] Bryan Aupperle: Motion is now: Accept the linked documents as CD03 of JCAA and CD01 of JCI, noting that editors will need to accept all changes, remove all comments and change front matter to have correct information.
[11:00] Vamsi: amend it is 
[11:00] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[11:02] Bryan Aupperle: Action Item (Editors): Produce new drafts of CAA and JCI with all changes accepted, comments removed and change front matter with correct information.
[11:03] Bryan Aupperle: Discussion about references to other SCA specs.
[11:06] anish: http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd03.pdf
[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Anish, Second Ashok - For CD's just approved, we update the Assembly to CD03 and the cross references to the new CD versions.
[11:08] Bryan Aupperle: s/ Assembly/ reference to Assembly/
[11:09] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[11:10] Bryan Aupperle: Action Item (Editors): Update new drafts of CAA and JCI with the references to Assembly to point to CD 03 and the cross references to each other to the new CDs.
[11:11] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Vote for PR of the CAA and JCI specifications
[11:12] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Anish, second Simon - We submit CD01 of JCI and CD03 of CAA as the first public review of the specifications with the public review to last 60 days.
[11:13] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[11:13] anish more pressure on bindings to get their work out
[11:14] Vamsi: big round of applause for the TC
[11:16] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: PR Comments
[11:17] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Bryan, second Anish, all issues opened during the public review as public review comments.
[11:18] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[11:19] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Bryan, second Anish - remove the 2/3 vote to open public review issues.
[11:19] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[11:20] anish i never thought that Java would go to PR before bidnings
[11:21] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Bryan, second, Simon - Create a new component in JIRA for each specification to hold PR issues.
[11:21] Bryan Aupperle: Dave: There is already a JIRA component for CAA
[11:21] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[11:26] Bryan Aupperle: Action Item (Chairs): Submit PR package to Mary.  PR package includes: 3 formats of each spec, updated schema, pointer to today's minutes.
[11:27] Bryan Aupperle: Action Item (Anish): Update Assembly RDDL doc to point to approved schema.
[11:28] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: AOB
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