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Subject: Re: [sca-j] Java CI spec - up to date issues applied


Dave,
The example code in chapter 5 of the PDF (lines 290-336) has a lot of
text underlined that should not be underlined.  This problem also
occurs in line 343.  I checked back a few versions and this problem
goes back at least to WD10.

   Simon

David Booz wrote:
> Thanks very much for figuring out Word. From the doc you posted, I was 
> able to run it through pdfmaker to produce the attached, with links that 
> work!
> 
> /(See attached file: sca-javaci-1.1-spec-wd10-fixed_withLinks.pdf)/
> 
> Dave Booz
> STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
> Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
> "Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
> Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
> e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com
> 
> Inactive hide details for Simon Nash ---05/02/2009 05:38:17 PM---Dave, 
> Anish, I think I have fixed the formatting and printing Simon Nash 
> ---05/02/2009 05:38:17 PM---Dave, Anish, I think I have fixed the 
> formatting and printing problems. In the
> 
> 
> From:	
> Simon Nash <oasis@cjnash.com>
> 
> To:	
> Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>
> 
> Cc:	
> David Booz/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS, sca-j@lists.oasis-open.org
> 
> Date:	
> 05/02/2009 05:38 PM
> 
> Subject:	
> Re: [sca-j] Java CI spec - up to date issues applied
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Dave, Anish,
> I think I have fixed the formatting and printing problems.  In the
> process of doing this, I learned more about Word formatting and
> indentation than I ever wanted to know, so I went on to put my
> newly-acquired knowledge to good use by formatting all the code,
> bulleted lists, and numbered lists using consistent indentation
> and style.
> 
> I also fixed some problems with the Javadoc comments in section 5
> and section 8.4 (should use "*" as continuation character when
> the comment is longer than one line).
> 
> The Word and PDF files are attached.  These match each other in
> formatting and line numbering.
> 
>   Simon
> 
> Anish Karmarkar wrote:
>  > For whatever reason I don't see the problem that you mention in PDF
>  > generation. And my line numbers match between PDF and word. Either what
>  > I'm seeing in my version of Word does not match with what you see in
>  > your version of Word (wrt indentation) OR I'm seeing the right
>  > indentation in Word and therefore generating the correct PDF.
>  >
>  > The PDF is attached; can someone verify for me if this has the right
>  > indentation, please. If my PDF is correct then we can solve this problem
>  > by having me generate the PDF. If not then we'll have to start from a
>  > new OASIS word template and start cut-and-pasting as suggested.
>  >
>  > -Anish
>  > --
>  >
>  > David Booz wrote:
>  >> That's right, but what also happens is that the bulleted lists in the
>  >> section 5 conformance statements have incorrect indentation. That's
>  >> what I don't know how to fix.
>  >>
>  >> I'm afraid the only way to fix this is going to be to cut/paste-text
>  >> -only into a new OASIS Word template. I don't have the time to attempt
>  >> something like that right now.
>  >>
>  >> Dave Booz
>  >> STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
>  >> Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
>  >> "Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
>  >> Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
>  >> e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com
>  >>
>  >> Inactive hide details for Simon Nash ---04/30/2009 04:05:32 PM---David
>  >> Booz wrote: > There seem to be some indentation/formattiSimon Nash
>  >> ---04/30/2009 04:05:32 PM---David Booz wrote: > There seem to be some
>  >> indentation/formatting differences between the
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> From:  
>  >> Simon Nash <oasis@cjnash.com>
>  >>
>  >> To:  
>  >> sca-j@lists.oasis-open.org
>  >>
>  >> Date:  
>  >> 04/30/2009 04:05 PM
>  >>
>  >> Subject:  
>  >> Re: [sca-j] Java CI spec - up to date issues applied
>  >>
>  >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> David Booz wrote:
>  >>  > There seem to be some indentation/formatting differences between the
>  >>  > word and pdf formats and some strange interactions between pdfmaker
>  >> and
>  >>  > print to pdf. Believe it or not, when I run pdfmaker over this
>  >> document,
>  >>  > it just dies right at the end and doesn't produce a pdf file. When
>  >> I try
>  >>  > to print to pdf, the word file is actually modified (which screws
>  >> up the
>  >>  > formatting) making the word and pdfs different (but only in
>  >> formatting,
>  >>  > not in content). I'm frustrated and am giving up for now on the
>  >>  > formatting situation as I don't know how to resolve it. If someone
>  >> else
>  >>  > can look at this, I'd appreciate it.
>  >>  >
>  >> I tried all kinds of combinations and I saw exactly what you are
>  >> seeing every time.  It was impossible to print the document to PDF
>  >> without it being reformatted and the line numbers changing.
>  >>
>  >> The only way I found to get the numbers to match was to save the
>  >> reformatted document after printing.  If I then reopen this saved
>  >> Word doc, the numbers in the Word doc will match the numbers in
>  >> the PDF.
>  >>
>  >>   Simon
>  >>
>  >>  > Now as for the comments:
>  >>  > - I could not figure out how to (reliably) indent all text under the
>  >>  > major headings, so instead I un-indented everything to match chaps
>  >> 8-11.
>  >>  > In trying to make Chap 8 indented like the rest of the document, all
>  >>  > kinds of strange formatting problems cropped up, so that's why I
>  >> decided
>  >>  > to un-indent everything. This had the effect of changing line numbers
>  >>  > all over the place.
>  >>  >
>  >>  > For the remaining comments, using the line numbers from your email,
>  >> this
>  >>  > leaves:
>  >>  > -779, 827 which I fixed
>  >>  > - 65, 96 are the only ones that need the package definition so I only
>  >>  > added those two.
>  >>  > - 234, fixed
>  >>  > - 295, 306 fixed
>  >>  > - 908 fixed
>  >>  >
>  >>  > I left change tracking on for wd10 and did NOT accept wd09 
> updates, so
>  >>  > marked changes include those made in wd09.
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >> 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32340/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-wd10.doc 
>  >>
>  >>  >
>  >>  > I did not produce a pdf as a result of the aforementioned formatting
>  >>  > problems.
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Dave Booz
>  >>  > STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
>  >>  > Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
>  >>  > "Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
>  >>  > Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
>  >>  > e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Inactive hide details for "Mark Combellack" ---04/30/2009 08:21:17
>  >>  > AM---Hi Dave,"Mark Combellack" ---04/30/2009 08:21:17 AM---Hi Dave,
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  > From:
>  >>  > "Mark Combellack" <mcombellack@avaya.com>
>  >>  >
>  >>  > To:
>  >>  > David Booz/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS, <sca-j@lists.oasis-open.org>
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Date:
>  >>  > 04/30/2009 08:21 AM
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Subject:
>  >>  > RE: [sca-j] Java CI spec - up to date issues applied
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Hi Dave,
>  >>  >
>  >>  > I have reviewed the updated WD09 of the C&I specification and 
> have the
>  >>  > following review comments:
>  >>  >
>  >>  > *Editorial Comments*
>  >>  >
>  >>  >           o Inconsistent indentation on the following lines:
>  >>  >                   · Lines 2 – 11
>  >>  >                   · Lines 13 – 15
>  >>  >                   · Line 45
>  >>  >                   · Lines 267 – 271
>  >>  >                   · Lines 281 – 283
>  >>  >                   · Lines 373 – 650 – i.e. whole of chapter 8
>  >>  >                   · Lines 676 – 803 – i.e. whole of chapter 10
>  >>  >                   · Lines 779 – 791 – Consider indenting this list
>  >>  >                   further than the paragraphs that surround it
>  >>  >                   · Lines 827 – 841 - Consider indenting this list
>  >>  >                   further than the paragraphs that surround it
>  >>  >           o Lines 65, 71, 96 & 121: Add “package services.hello;”
>  >> since
>  >>  >             composite XML in lines 83 – 90 has a package name
>  >>  >           o Line 234: Change method name to setMaxRetries to 
> match the
>  >>  >             variable name. Not strictly required but do we really 
> need
>  >>  >             to introduce an example at this point that shows 
> different
>  >>  >             method names/field names?
>  >>  >           o Split the code comments on the following lines onto
>  >> multiple
>  >>  >             lines as it splits in an untidy way:
>  >>  >                   · Lines 295 – 296
>  >>  >                   · Lines 306 – 307
>  >>  >           o Line 908 – Consider making the Conformance ID column
>  >>  >             narrower since there is a lot of unused whitespace in
>  >> the table
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Thanks,
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Mark
>  >>  > Mark Combellack| Software Developer| Avaya | Eastern Business Park
>  >> | St.
>  >>  > Mellons | Cardiff | CF3 5EA | Voice: +44 (0) 29 2081 7624 |
>  >>  > _mcombellack@avaya.com_ <mailto:%7Cmcombellack@avaya.com>
>  >>  >
>  >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  >>  > *From:* David Booz [mailto:booz@us.ibm.com] *
>  >>  > Sent:* 29 April 2009 16:21*
>  >>  > To:* sca-j@lists.oasis-open.org*
>  >>  > Subject:* Re: [sca-j] Java CI spec - up to date issues applied
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Simon,
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Thanks for the thorough review. I've made all the updates (and a few
>  >>  > more that I spotted along the way) and published new documents. If
>  >>  > anyone else has comments on WD08, no worries, I will fold them in
>  >> on top
>  >>  > of this new WD09 draft and produce another set of documents. If you
>  >>  > haven't started reviewing yet, WD09 is as good a place to start as
>  >> any.
>  >>  > _
>  >>  >
>  >> 
> __http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32313/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-wd09.doc__ 
> 
>  >>
>  >>  >
>  >> 
> __http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32312/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-wd09.pdf_ 
> 
>  >>
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Dave Booz
>  >>  > STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
>  >>  > Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
>  >>  > "Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
>  >>  > Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
>  >>  > e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Inactive hide details for Simon Nash ---04/29/2009 05:22:04
>  >> AM---Dave, I
>  >>  > have reviewed this and I have a number of editorial coSimon Nash
>  >>  > ---04/29/2009 05:22:04 AM---Dave, I have reviewed this and I have a
>  >>  > number of editorial comments. I have
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  > From:
>  >>  > Simon Nash <oasis@cjnash.com>
>  >>  >
>  >>  > To:
>  >>  > sca-j@lists.oasis-open.org
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Date:
>  >>  > 04/29/2009 05:22 AM
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Subject:
>  >>  > Re: [sca-j] Java CI spec - up to date issues applied
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Dave,
>  >>  > I have reviewed this and I have a number of editorial comments. I 
> have
>  >>  > recorded these as inline Word comments in the attached .doc file.
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Simon
>  >>  >
>  >>  > David Booz wrote:
>  >>  >  > Here are the links to a current Java CI spec. We have never
>  >> published a
>  >>  >  > CD of this spec, so please review it and all predecessors
>  >> carefully as
>  >>  >  > this is the basis for CD01 and PRD. The sooner you can review and
>  >>  >  > provide comments, the sooner I can fold in the changes and
>  >> re-publish.
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >
>  >> 
> _http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32270/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-wd08.doc_ 
> 
>  >>
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >
>  >> 
> _http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32269/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-wd08.pdf_ 
> 
>  >>
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >  > Dave Booz
>  >>  >  > STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
>  >>  >  > Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
>  >>  >  > "Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
>  >>  >  > Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
>  >>  >  > e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com
>  >>  >  >
>  >>  >
>  >>  > [attachment "sca-javaci-1.1-spec-wd08+simon.doc" deleted by David
>  >>  > Booz/Poughkeepsie/IBM]
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