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Subject: Raw Text from SCA-J Conf call



Folks,

Here is the raw text of the meeting of 19th June:

- Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j
- Appointment of scribe. List attached below
- Agenda bashing
- Approval of minutes for 15th June 2009
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/32939/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-06-15.doc


0. Administration
- Issue Status: Open: 28
- SCA-J Public Review
    Started: 8th June 2009
    Ends:    7th August 2009


1. Review action items:

Action Items that I believe are done:

Action Items that I believe are still to be done:
2008-11-11-22: Mark to draw up some wording for Direction 1 (as discussed at the November F2F) for JAVA-62
2008-11-11-23: Mark (and others prepared to help) to investigate the WorkManager JEE spec and determine its applicability to SCA for JAVA-62
2009-05-11-01: Editors: remove extra space on line 767 of CD01 (PDF)
2009-06-01-01: MikeE to raise issue regarding some Assembly tests that require Java
2009-06-05-02: Anish to raise an issue in Bindings TC against WS binding spec to address wireFormat and operationSelector pseudo-schema once the Assembly change is made to make these abstract.


2. New Issues

None


3. Open Issues

a. JAVA-140: Schema for @ejb-link-name is incorrect
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-140
Updated proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00021.html

b. JAVA-149: SCA Spring C & I specification need to specify the limitations of implicit references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-149
Proposal in Jira

c. JAVA-150: SCA Spring C & I specification need to mention how SCA runtime should load multiple application context files.
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-150
Proposal in Jira

d. JAVA-114: Spring CI runtime behaviour when annotation rules are violated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-114
Proposal in Jira

e. JAVA-24: The EJB bindings specification should provide explicity statesupport or non-support for Callbacks
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-24
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00049.html

f. JAVA-122: EJB Binding - Remove references to conversational function
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-122
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00050.html

g. JAVA-118: EJB Binding: Need description for <wireFormat/> and <operationSelection/>
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-118
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00027.html
Waiting for Assembly and Binding issues to be raised and resolved
Latest proposal 1: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00051.html
Latest proposal 2: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00056.html

h. JAVA-58: SCA Spring C&I Specification does not have a normative definition of how to calculate the ComponentType of a Spring Application context
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-58
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00107.html
PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33005/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58d.pdf
MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33004/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58d.doc

i JAVA-164: Spring C&I SCA extension element does not provide full functionality possible in an SCA CT
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-164
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00111.html
PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33007/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD01%2BIssue164.pdf
MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33006/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD01%20Issue164.doc


4. Issues waiting for updated proposals

a. JAVA-59: SCA Spring C & I specification does not state what happens when a Bean exposed as a service implements mutliple interfaces
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-59
Waiting for updated proposal

b. JAVA-92: Spring C&I spec needs to define how effective CT is calculated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-92
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200905/msg00102.html
Waiting for JAVA-58 to be resolved.


5. Issues with no proposals

a. JAVA-163: Spring C&I sca-spring:reference element has a default attribute which is unexplained
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-163
No proposal

b. JAVA-107: RFC2119 Language is needed for the EJB Binding Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-107
No proposal

c. JAVA-106: RFC2119 Language is needed for Spring C&I Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-106
No proposal

d. JAVA-63: SCA Spring C & I specification does not state whether Constructor Injection should be supported
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-63
No proposal


6. AOB

a. Straggler roll call


---------------------------------------------------------------
Rotating scribe list:

Ron Barack SAP AG (3)
Michael Beisiegel IBM (3)
Sanjay Patil SAP AG (3)
Jim Marino Individual (4)
Pradeep Simha TIBCO Software Inc. (5)
Vamsavardhana Chillakuru IBM (3)
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (2)
Meeraj Kunnumpurath Individual (3)
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (9)
Yang Lei (7)
Mike Edwards IBM (10)
Graham Charters IBM (3)
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (12)
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (11)
Bryan Aupperle IBM (12)
Yang Lei (8 )
Simon Nash Individual (9)
anonymous morphed into anish
Scribe: Mike Edwards
Agenda Bashin
No changes
Item 1 Meeting Minutes
Minutes for 15th June
RESOLUTION: Minutes are approved without objection

Item 2 TC Admin
28 open issues
Public review has started for Java CAA, Java CI specs
Ends 7th August

Item 3 Action Items
No progress on any action items - all remain pending

Item 4 New Issues
No new issues

Item 5 Open Issues
a. JAVA-140: Schema for @ejb-link-name is incorrect
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-140
Updated proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00021.html
Anish: the only issue is whether it should be string or anyURI

Bryan moves to resolve Issue 140 using the proposal in the email http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00021.html
Mike Edwards seconds
Anish: Should this be anyURI rather than string?
Mike E: This was debated on the email list as Dave started with anyURI but changed it as a result of previous discussions
Bryan: Could there be a circumstance where the pointer to the JAR would not follow normal URI schemes?
Motion passes unanimously
RESOLUTION: Issue 140 is resolved

JAVA-149: SCA Spring C & I specification need to specify the limitations of implicit references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-149
Proposal in Jira
Mike E presents the proposal
Anish: The proposal is quite vague - it isn't spec language
ACTION 20090619-01: Mike E to prepare a detailed proposal for Issue 149

JAVA-150: SCA Spring C & I specification need to mention how SCA runtime should load multiple application context files.
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-150
Proposal in Jira
Need to get Ram on a call to present this one

JAVA-114: Spring CI runtime behaviour when annotation rules are violated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-114
Proposal in Jira
Discussion of the fact that currently, there is nothing in the spec that says that SCA annotations are supported
- and that a discussion on the componentType calculation indicated that an issue needs raising to add support for SCA annotations to the Spring spec

JAVA-24: The EJB bindings specification should provide explicity statesupport or non-support for Callbacks
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-24
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00049.html
Anish outlines the proposal
Mark Combellack: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00068.html
Anish moves to resolve Issue 24 with the proposal contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00068.html
Mark Combellack: Motion seconded by Bryan
Motion passes unanimously
RESOLUTION: Issue 24 is resolved

Issue 58: SCA Spring C&I Specification does not have a normative definition of how to calculate the ComponentType of a Spring Application context
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-58
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00107.html
PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33005/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58d.pdf
MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33004/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58d.doc

Mike E presents the proposal
Anish I'm in the same boat as dave wrt reference calculation
Anish - would like to see all implicit references overridden if a <sca:reference/> is declared
COB

Yours,  Mike.

Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.
Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.
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