Re: [sca-j] ISSUE 118: EJB Binding: Need description for <wireFormat/> and<operationSelection/> - proposal v3

[David Booz <booz@us.ibm.com>]

Ok, then the current proposal looks like this:

(See attached file: sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-03+issue118_v3.doc)

Dave Booz
STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
"Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com

Anish Karmarkar ---06/19/2009 01:51:42 AM---Ok, makes sense to not take away the extensibility. -Anish

From:	Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>
To:	sca-j@lists.oasis-open.org
Date:	06/19/2009 01:51 AM
Subject:	Re: [sca-j] ISSUE 118: EJB Binding: Need description for <wireFormat/> and <operationSelection/> - proposal v3

---

Ok, makes sense to not take away the extensibility.

-Anish
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David Booz wrote:
> I don't see any reason to be punitive and take away this extensibility 
> point. And further, IIRC, the JEE specs allow for any wire level 
> transport protocol (and by extension message format) when interacting 
> with EJBs.
> 
> Dave Booz
> STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
> Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
> "Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
> Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
> e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com
> 
> Inactive hide details for Anish Karmarkar ---06/12/2009 02:46:39 
> AM---Seems like a good way to resolve this. One question I do Anish 
> Karmarkar ---06/12/2009 02:46:39 AM---Seems like a good way to resolve 
> this. One question I do have is: do we still want to allow this (as
> 
> 
> From:		 
> Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>
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> To:		 
> David Booz/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS
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> sca-j@lists.oasis-open.org
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> Date:		 
> 06/12/2009 02:46 AM
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> Subject:		 
> Re: [sca-j] ISSUE 118: EJB Binding: Need description for <wireFormat/> 
> and <operationSelection/> - proposal v3
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 
> 
> Seems like a good way to resolve this.
> 
> One question I do have is: do we still want to allow this (as an
> extension point) or disallow it in this binding?
> 
> -Anish
> --
> 
> David Booz wrote:
>  > If we agree to go this route, the EJB binding spec might look different
>  > than the current proposal. I would throw away the current proposal and
>  > simply add a new section before the Appendix, like this:
>  >
>  > 7 Wire Format and Operation Selectors
>  >
>  > The SCA Assembly Model Specification [ASSEMBLY] defines extensibility
>  > points for bindings to specify <wireFormat/> and <operationSelector/>
>  > configuration. This specification does not define any wire format or
>  > operation selector extension elements.
>  >
>  >
>  > Dave Booz
>  > STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
>  > Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
>  > "Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
>  > Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
>  > e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com
>  >
>  > Inactive hide details for Mike Edwards ---06/11/2009 02:53:09
>  > AM---Folks, I wonder why we need a description of these 2 elementMike
>  > Edwards ---06/11/2009 02:53:09 AM---Folks, I wonder why we need a
>  > description of these 2 elements in this binding,
>  >
>  >
>  > From:
>  > Mike Edwards <mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com>
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>  > To:
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>  >
>  > Date:
>  > 06/11/2009 02:53 AM
>  >
>  > Subject:
>  > Re: [sca-j] ISSUE 118: EJB Binding: Need description for <wireFormat/>
>  > and <operationSelection/> - proposal v2
>  >
>  > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Folks,
>  >
>  > I wonder why we need a description of these 2 elements in this binding,
>  > given that it does not actually support them.
>  >
>  > I note that the issue has been raised in Assembly to make the elements
>  > abstract, so that in reality only specific extended
>  > forms of these elements can be used anywhere - and this spec states that
>  > it does not support any of them.
>  >
>  >
>  > Yours, Mike.
>  >
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>  > Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.
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>  > From: David Booz <booz@us.ibm.com>
>  > To: sca-j@lists.oasis-open.org
>  > Date: 10/06/2009 15:22
>  > Subject: [sca-j] ISSUE 118: EJB Binding: Need description for
>  > <wireFormat/> and <operationSelection/> - proposal v2
>  >
>  >
>  > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > There was a small editorial change to this proposal noted in the
>  > telecon. I am reposting v2 of the proposal just for that change. I
>  > believe we are blocked on this issue until Anish raises the binding
>  > issue to address wireFormat and OperationSelector in the pseudo schema
>  > of the WS binding spec./
>  >
>  > (See attached file: sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-03+issue118_v2.doc)/
>  >
>  > Dave Booz
>  > STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
>  > Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
>  > "Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
>  > Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
>  > e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com[attachment
>  > "sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-03+issue118_v2.doc" deleted by Mike
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