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Subject: Raw minutes for 10 July
[9:53] Mark Combellack: - Roll Call http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j - Appointment of scribe. List attached below - Agenda bashing - Approval of minutes for 6th July 2009 http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33265/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-07-06.doc 0. Administration - Issue Status: Open: 23 - SCA-J Public Review Started: 8th June 2009 Ends: 7th August 2009 1. Review action items: Action Items that I believe are done: Action Items that I believe are still to be done: 2008-11-11-22: Mark to draw up some wording for Direction 1 (as discussed at the November F2F) for JAVA-62 2008-11-11-23: Mark (and others prepared to help) to investigate the WorkManager JEE spec and determine its applicability to SCA for JAVA-62 2009-05-11-01: Editors: remove extra space on line 767 of CD01 (PDF) 2009-06-19-01: Mike E to prepare a detailed proposal for Issue 149 2009-06-22-01: Simon to write the proposal for JAVA-139 for the 'defaultValue' attribute only accepting strings. 2009-07-06-01: Dave B to raise to liaison (so that other C&Is can consider and possibly assembly) that non-XML based C&Is should state how the conversion of property values happens 2. New Issues a. JAVA-166: Spring C&I does not say anything about SCA annotations http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-166 b. JAVA-167: SCA Spring C & I specification should make type attribute as optional for <sca:service/> element http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-167 3. Open Issues a. JAVA-58: SCA Spring C&I Specification does not have a normative definition of how to calculate the ComponentType of a Spring Application context http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-58 Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00107.html PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33005/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58d.pdf MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33004/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58d.doc b. JAVA-164: Spring C&I SCA extension element does not provide full functionality possible in an SCA CT http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-164 Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00111.html PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33007/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD01%2BIssue164.pdf MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33006/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD01%20Issue164.doc c. JAVA-118: EJB Binding: Need description for <wireFormat/> and <operationSelection/> http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-118 Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00000.html d. JAVA-150: SCA Spring C & I specification need to mention how SCA runtime should load multiple application context files. http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-150 Proposal in Jira Waiting for Ram to be on the call 4. Issues waiting for updated proposals a. JAVA-59: SCA Spring C & I specification does not state what happens when a Bean exposed as a service implements mutliple interfaces http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-59 Waiting for updated proposal b. JAVA-92: Spring C&I spec needs to define how effective CT is calculated http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-92 Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200905/msg00102.html Waiting for JAVA-58 to be resolved. c. JAVA-149: SCA Spring C & I specification need to specify the limitations of implicit references http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-149 Proposal in Jira Waiting for updated proposal d. JAVA-114: Spring CI runtime behaviour when annotation rules are violated http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-114 Proposal in Jira Blocked by JAVA-166 5. Issues with no proposals a. JAVA-163: Spring C&I sca-spring:reference element has a default attribute which is unexplained http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-163 No proposal b. JAVA-107: RFC2119 Language is needed for the EJB Binding Specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-107 No proposal c. JAVA-106: RFC2119 Language is needed for Spring C&I Specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-106 No proposal d. JAVA-63: SCA Spring C & I specification does not state whether Constructor Injection should be supported http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-63 No proposal 6. AOB a. Straggler roll call --------------------------------------------------------------- Rotating scribe list: Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (12) Bryan Aupperle IBM (12) Yang Lei (8 ) Simon Nash Individual (9) Mike Edwards IBM (11) Graham Charters IBM (4) Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (12) Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (11)
[10:11] Bryan Aupperle: Scribe: Bryan
[10:12] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Agenda Bashing
[10:12] Bryan Aupperle: Agenda accepted
[10:12] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Approval of Minutes of 6 July
[10:13] Bryan Aupperle: Minutes approved
[10:13] Bryan Aupperle: Minutes approved
[10:13] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Action items
[10:14] Bryan Aupperle: 2009-06-22-01 is done, all other are ongoing
[10:14] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: New Issue - Java-166
[10:14] Bryan Aupperle: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-166
[10:15] Bryan Aupperle: Anish reviews the issue
[10:17] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Anish, second Mike - Open Java-166
[10:17] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[10:17] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: New Issue Java-167
[10:17] Bryan Aupperle: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-167
[10:18] Bryan Aupperle: Mike reviews the issue
[10:20] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Mike, second Anish - Open Java-167
[10:20] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[10:21] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Issue Java-58 SCA Spring C&I Specification does not have a normative definition of how to calculate the ComponentType of a Spring Application context http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-58 Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00107.html PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33005/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58d.pdf MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33004/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58d.doc
[10:22] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: We have discussed this before and has not been updated since that time.
[10:26] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Issue Java-164 Spring C&I SCA extension element does not provide full functionality possible in an SCA CT http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-164 Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00111.html PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33007/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD01%2BIssue164.pdf MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33006/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD01%20Issue164.doc
[10:26] Mike Edwards: did we lose you Mark?
[10:26] Mark Combellack: I am getting a tone on my phone so I might have been kicked off teh call
[10:26] Mark Combellack: redialing
[10:27] Mark Combellack: Back
[10:30] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: We have discussed before
[10:32] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Mike, second Bryan - Resolve Java-164 with proposal in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200906/msg00111.html
[10:33] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: The proposal does not include any extensibility points
[10:34] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: when we discussed this prior, the point was made that tinding can be specified in the composite, but why not within the component type?
[10:35] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: Not clear what benefit specifying the binding in the context file is. I.e. information goes in one X<L file vs. another.
[10:38] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: Potential use case: Component placed in a top-level composite and a tool could be used to generate the extended context file with a trivial composite file.
[10:38] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: The equivalent annotation does not exist for POJOs
[10:42] anish: amendment: add <anyAttribute> and <any> (with namespace="##other" and processContent="lax") to the three elements reference, property and service
[10:44] Bryan Aupperle: Motion to ammend: Anish, second Mike - as stated above
[10:44] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion to amend passes w/o
[10:45] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion, as amended, passes w/o
[10:47] Bryan Aupperle: Action Item (Mike) Make sure Ram attends calls to discuss his issues.
[10:47] Mike Edwards: can't hear Mark properly
[10:47] Mark Combellack: My line has gone quiet again - redialing
[10:47] Mike Edwards: Bryan is badly distorted
[10:47] Mike Edwards: for me
[10:48] Mark Combellack: back
[10:49] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: AOB
[10:49] anish bye, have a good WE
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