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Subject: Raw Text Meeting Minutes - TC meeting of 17th July 2009
- From: Mike Edwards <mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com>
- To: "OASIS Java" <sca-j@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:21:50 +0100
AGENDA:
- Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j
- Appointment of scribe. List attached
below
- Agenda bashing
- Approval of minutes for 13th July
2009
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33411/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-07-13.doc
0. Administration
- Issue Status: Open: 22
- SCA-J Public Review
Started: 8th June 2009
Ends: 7th August 2009
1. Review action items:
Action Items that I believe are done:
Action Items that I believe are still
to be done:
2008-11-11-22: Mark to draw up some
wording for Direction 1 (as discussed at the November F2F) for JAVA-62
2008-11-11-23: Mark (and others prepared
to help) to investigate the WorkManager JEE spec and determine its applicability
to SCA for JAVA-62
2009-05-11-01: Editors: remove extra
space on line 767 of CD01 (PDF)
2009-06-19-01: Mike E to prepare a detailed
proposal for Issue 149
2009-07-06-01: Dave B to raise to liaison
(so that other C&Is can consider and possibly assembly) that non-XML
based C&Is should state how the conversion of property values happens
2009-07-13-01: Mike E to produce text
for JAVA-167
2009-07-13-02: Ram to write up proposal
in spec with change tracking on for JAVA-150
2009-07-13-03: Anish to create a proposal
for the list of annotations which make sense for JAVA-166
2. New Issues
None
3. Open Issues
a. JAVA-58: SCA Spring C&I Specification
does not have a normative definition of how to calculate the ComponentType
of a Spring Application context
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-58
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00027.html
PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33357/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58e.pdf
MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33358/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58e.doc
b. JAVA-59: SCA Spring C & I specification
does not state what happens when a Bean exposed as a service implements
mutliple interfaces
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-59
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00041.html
4. Issues waiting for updated proposals
a. JAVA-92: Spring C&I spec needs
to define how effective CT is calculated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-92
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200905/msg00102.html
Waiting for JAVA-58 to be resolved.
b. JAVA-149: SCA Spring C & I specification
need to specify the limitations of implicit references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-149
Proposal in Jira
Waiting for updated proposal
c. JAVA-114: Spring CI runtime behaviour
when annotation rules are violated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-114
Proposal in Jira
Blocked by JAVA-166
d. JAVA-150: SCA Spring C & I specification
need to mention how SCA runtime should load multiple application context
files.
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-150
Proposal in Jira
Waiting for full proposal (Ram Action
Item)
e. JAVA-166: Spring C&I does not
say anything about SCA annotations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-166
Waiting for list of Annotations (Anish
Action Item)
f. JAVA-167: SCA Spring C & I specification
should make type attribute as optional for element
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-167
Outline proposal in Jira
Waiting for full proposal (Mike E Action
Item)
5. Issues with no proposals
a. JAVA-163: Spring C&I sca-spring:reference
element has a default attribute which is unexplained
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-163
No proposal
b. JAVA-107: RFC2119 Language is needed
for the EJB Binding Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-107
No proposal
c. JAVA-106: RFC2119 Language is needed
for Spring C&I Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-106
No proposal
d. JAVA-63: SCA Spring C & I specification
does not state whether Constructor Injection should be supported
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-63
No proposal
6. AOB
a. Straggler roll call
Item 0 Agenda Bashing
No changes
Item 0 Administrivia
Public Review is in progress
Ends Aug 7
Item 1 Minutes from Previous Meeting
Minutes from 13th July are accepted
without change
Item 2 Action Items.
2008-11-11-22: Mark to draw up some
wording for Direction 1 (as discussed at the November F2F) for JAVA-62
2008-11-11-23: Mark (and others prepared
to help) to investigate the WorkManager JEE spec and determine its applicability
to SCA for JAVA-62
2009-05-11-01: Editors: remove extra
space on line 767 of CD01 (PDF)
2009-06-19-01: Mike E to prepare a detailed
proposal for Issue 149
2009-07-06-01: Dave B to raise to liaison
(so that other C&Is can consider and possibly assembly) that non-XML
based C&Is should state how the conversion of property values happens
2009-07-13-01: Mike E to produce text
for JAVA-167
2009-07-13-02: Ram to write up proposal
in spec with change tracking on for JAVA-150
2009-07-13-03: Anish to create a proposal
for the list of annotations which make sense for JAVA-166
All remain outstanding
Item 3 Open Issues
JAVA-58: SCA Spring C&I Specification
does not have a normative definition of how to calculate the ComponentType
of a Spring Application context
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-58
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00027.html
PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33357/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58e.pdf
MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33358/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58e.doc
anonymous morphed into anish
Mike describes the proposal
Anish: Could you add an example.
Mike: Happy to do this, but I'd like
to do that outside the resolution of this issue
Dave: Give Mike an action item to create
an example
ACTION 20090717-01: Mike to create an
example of the componentType introspection
Mike moves to resolve Issue 58 using
the proposal in the email http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00027.html
Bryan seconds
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 58 is resolved.
JAVA 98 Spring C&I spec needs to
define how effective CT is calculated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-92
anish: we should say that sides files
are not used in effective CT
anish: a similar issue was filed in
BPEL
anish: this is what mike's proposal
in BPEL says:"The SCA WS-BPEL Client and Implementation Specification
does not support the use of component type side files (as described in
the SCA Assembly Model specification [SCA-Assembly]). The component
type of a WS-BPEL process used an an implementation is determined completely
by introspection of the process."
Mike moves to resolve Issue 92 by adding
the following text at the end of Section 3, as defined in the resolution
of Issue 58:
"The Spring Component Implementation
type does not support the use of Component Type side files, as defined
in the SCA Assembly Model specification [SCA-ASSEMBLY], so that the effective
componentType of a Spring Application Context is determined completely
by introspection of the Spring Application Context"
Bryan seconds
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 92 is resolved with the proposal
text above.
JAVA-59: SCA Spring C & I specification
does not state what happens when a Bean exposed as a service implements
multiple interfaces
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-59
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00041.html
Mike presents the proposal in the email
above
Mike moves to resolve Issue 59 using
the proposal in the email http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00041.html
Bryan seconds
Anish queries the comment about Issue
167 in the email
Mike indicates that there is a text
change required from issue 167
Motion is accepted unanimously
Issue 59 is resolved using the proposal
in the email
<Discussion of possibilities for
resolving Issue 166>
Thinking at the moment is in the direction
of disallowing the SCA annotations in Spring beans
Yours, Mike.
Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.
Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.
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