Raw Minutes for TC Call of 14th August 2009

[Mike Edwards <mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com>]

Folks,

Here are the raw minutes:

Mark Combellack: - Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j
- Appointment of scribe. List attached
below
- Agenda bashing
- Approval of minutes for 10th August
2009
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33715/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-08-10.doc


0. Administration 
- Issue Status: Open: 18
- SCA-J Public Review
    Started: 8th June 2009
    Ended    7th
August 2009


1. Review action items:

Action Items that I believe are done:

Action Items that I believe are still
to be done:
2008-11-11-22: Mark to draw up some
wording for Direction 1 (as discussed at the November F2F) for JAVA-62
2008-11-11-23: Mark (and others prepared
to help) to investigate the WorkManager JEE spec and determine its applicability
to SCA for JAVA-62
2009-05-11-01: Editors: remove extra
space on line 767 of CD01 (PDF)
2009-06-19-01: Mike E to prepare a detailed
proposal for Issue 149
2009-07-06-01: Dave B to raise to liaison
(so that other C&Is can consider and possibly assembly) that non-XML
based C&Is should state how the conversion of property values happens
2009-07-13-01: Mike E to produce text
for JAVA-167
2009-07-13-03: Anish to create a proposal
for the list of annotations which make sense for JAVA-166
2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example
of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5
2009-07-27-01: Chairs to find potential
replacement time for one or both of the cancelled calls.
2009-07-27-02: Mike E to prepare set
of slides for Issue 127


2. New Issues

None


3. Open Issues

a. JAVA-107: RFC2119 Language is needed
for the EJB Binding Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-107
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00033.html
PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33762/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v5.pdf
MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33761/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v5.doc

b. JAVA-150: SCA Spring C & I specification
need to mention how SCA runtime should load multiple application context
files.
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-150
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00083.html


4. Issues waiting for updated proposals

a. JAVA-149: SCA Spring C & I specification
need to specify the limitations of implicit references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-149
Proposal in Jira
Waiting for updated proposal

b. JAVA-114: Spring CI runtime behaviour
when annotation rules are violated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-114
Proposal in Jira
Blocked by JAVA-166

c. JAVA-166: Spring C&I does not
say anything about SCA annotations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-166
Waiting for list of Annotations (Anish
Action Item)

d. JAVA-167: SCA Spring C & I specification
should make type attribute as optional for <sca:service/> element
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-167
Outline proposal in Jira
Waiting for full proposal (Mike E Action
Item)

e. JAVA-173: SCA Spring C & I specification
should mention how implicit services should be determined for special bean
definitions
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-173
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00006.html
Waiting for updated proposal (Ram)

f. JAVA-175: SCA Spring C & I specification
should use "id" of the bean to uniquely identify a bean instead
of its name
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-175
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00007.html
Waiting for updated proposal (Ram)


5. Issues with no proposals

a. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the
SCA JEE specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174


6. AOB

a. Straggler roll call


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Rotating scribe list:

Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (12)
Graham Charters IBM (5)
Mike Edwards IBM (12)
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (13)
Yang Lei IBM (10)
Simon Nash Individual (10)
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (12)
Bryan Aupperle IBM (15)
 
Agenda Bashing
No changes
Approval of Minutes
Minutes for August 10th 2009
Minutes approved without change
Administrivia
18 open issues
Public Review completed on 7th August
Item 1 Action Items
2009-06-19-01: Mike E to prepare a detailed
proposal for Issue 149
- now Done
Item 2 New Issues
None
Item 3 Existing Issues
JAVA-107: RFC2119 Language is needed
for the EJB Binding Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-107
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00033.html
PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33762/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v5.pdf
MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33761/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v5.doc
Dave presents his proposal, linked above
- new 3rd bullet in section 3.1, dealing
with <service> side
- 4th bullet adjusted
- all mentions of "service"
and "reference" are qualified with "SCA" or "EJB"
depending on which type is being discussed
Bryan - in Section 8.2, I though we
decided that the conformance clauses don't get numbered
Dave: I could not recall whether we
decided to remove the numbers
Martin - I think that is what we agreed
- ie no numbers
Mike: I'm pretty happy with the spec
now, especially all the work on Section 3
anish: didn't we talk about moving 80004
to a different section?
Dave: Moves to resolve Issue 107 with
the proposal in http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33762/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v5.pdf
except for - unhighlight and unlabel the statement in Section 8.1 and the
first two statements in section 8.2 (leaving the statement [BSB80004])
Bryan seconds
<Discussion of the "right"
place for [BSB80004], comparing with other SCA specification documents>
Dave moves to amend the motion to also
move [BSB80004] to be immediately [BSB20008] and renumber it to [BSB20009]
and replace the word "implementation" with "SCA runtime"
Anish seconds
Motion passes unanimously - amendment
is carried
anish btw what is the difference between
an "implementation" and an "SCA Runtime"
Amended main motion passes unanimously
anish i understand that one is a target
of keywords, but aren't they the same?
resolve Issue 107 with the proposal
in http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33762/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v5.pdf
except for - unhighlight and unlabel the statement in Section 8.1 and the
first two statements in section 8.2 and move [BSB80004] to be immediately
after [BSB20008] and renumber it to [BSB20009] and replace the word "implementation"
with "SCA runtime"
"implementation" can get confused
with <implementation.xxx/>
JAVA-150: SCA Spring C & I specification
need to mention how SCA runtime should load multiple application context
files.
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-150
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00083.html
sca-springci-draft-Issue150.doc - contains
2 alternatives
Ram outlines the 2 alternatives
<Discussion of what the alternatives
mean>
Mark Combellack: Approx 5 minutes left
of call time
anish: http://static.springsource.org/osgi/docs/1.0.x/reference/html/app-deploy.html
Mark Combellack: Meeting adjourned
COB


Yours,  Mike.

Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.
Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.
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