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["Mark Combellack" <mcombellack@avaya.com>]

[15:16] Mark Combellack: - Roll Call

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j

- Appointment of scribe. List attached below

- Agenda bashing

- Approval of minutes for 14th August 2009

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33813/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-08-14.doc

0. Administration 

- Issue Status: Open: 17

- SCA-J Public Review

    Started: 8th June 2009

    Ended:   7th August 2009

1. Review action items:

Action Items that I believe are done:

2009-07-13-01: Mike E to produce text for JAVA-167

Action Items that I believe are still to be done:

2008-11-11-22: Mark to draw up some wording for Direction 1 (as discussed at the November F2F) for JAVA-62

2008-11-11-23: Mark (and others prepared to help) to investigate the WorkManager JEE spec and determine its applicability to SCA for JAVA-62

2009-05-11-01: Editors: remove extra space on line 767 of CD01 (PDF)

2009-07-06-01: Dave B to raise to liaison (so that other C&Is can consider and possibly assembly) that non-XML based C&Is should state how the conversion of property values happens

2009-07-13-03: Anish to create a proposal for the list of annotations which make sense for JAVA-166

2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example of the componentType introspection (JAVA-58)

2009-07-27-01: Chairs to find potential replacement time for one or both of the cancelled calls.

2009-07-27-02: Mike E to prepare set of slides for Issue 127

2. EJB Binding (wd05) Are we ready for CD01 ?

See: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00049.html

PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33809/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-05.pdf

MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33808/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-05.doc

3. New Issues (Excluding EJB/Spring new issues)

a. JAVA-177: Java CAA spec JavaInterface complexType decl should not have <anyAttribute>

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-177

Proposal in Jira

4. Open Issues

a. JAVA-149: SCA Spring C & I specification need to specify the limitations of implicit references

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-149

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00042.html

b. JAVA-167: SCA Spring C & I specification should make type attribute as optional for <sca:service/> element

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-167

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00052.html

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33810/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD04%2BIssue167.doc 

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33811/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD04%2BIssue167.pdf 

5. Issues waiting for updated proposals

a. JAVA-155: Inconsistent normative statements in Chapter 10

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-155

Discuss - What do we do next?

Waiting for updated proposal

b. JAVA-127: Long running request/response operations

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-127

Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200812/msg00089.html

Waiting for presentation slides

c. JAVA-168: Conversion rules for property values are not specified

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-168

Proposed direction: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00004.html

Waiting for full proposal

d. JAVA-46: equals() method on ServiceReference and CallableReference

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-46

Waiting for updated proposal

e. JAVA-171: Duplicate normative statements in Java CI and Java CAA

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-171

Waiting for updated proposal

f. JAVA-172: Java CAA spec - Incorrect use of RFC2119 keywords

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-172

Waiting for updated proposal

g. JAVA-54: Section 7.1 of the Java CAA Specification is unclear

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-154

Waiting for proposal from Mike

6. Issues without proposals

a. JAVA-62: Clarify what a Component Implementation can do with threads

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-62

No proposal

b. JAVA-156: Intent annotations are missing from Java CAA as compared to Policy FW spec

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-156

No proposal

7. AOB

a. Straggler roll call

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Rotating scribe list:

Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (12)

Graham Charters IBM (5)

Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (13)

Yang Lei IBM (10)

Simon Nash Individual (10)

Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (12)

Bryan Aupperle IBM (15)

Mike Edwards IBM (13)

[15:34] Ashok1: scribe: Ashok1

[15:34] Ashok1: Topic:  Agenda bashing

[15:34] Ashok1: No changes to agenda

[15:34] Ashok1: Topic:  Approval of minutes for 14th August 2009

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33813/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-08-14.doc

[15:35] Ashok1: Minutes approved w/o objection

[15:35] Ashok1: Topic: Administration 

- Issue Status: Open: 17

- SCA-J Public Review

    Started: 8th June 2009

    Ended:   7th August 2009

[15:35] Ashok1: Topic:  Review of Action Itema

[15:36] Ashok1: Mike has created proposal for Java-167

[15:36] Ashok1: All other items outstanding

[15:36] Ashok1: Topic: EJB Binding (wd05) Are we ready for CD01 ?

See: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00049.html

PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33809/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-05.pdf

MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33808/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-05.doc

[15:37] Ashok1: Dave:  I think it is ready

[15:38] Ashok1: Bryan:  We can go to CD without going to PR

[15:39] Ashok1: Mike:  Let's wait till we have a bag to stuff before we go to PR

[15:40] Ashok1: Bryan:  We point back to OSOA spec ... question wrt copyright dates

[15:41] Ashok1: Dave:  Lets do the CD vote Friday ... I will send mail warning people

[15:42] Ashok1: Mark:  Maybe Monday?

[15:43] Ashok1: Topic: New Issues (Excluding EJB/Spring new issues)

a. JAVA-177: Java CAA spec JavaInterface complexType decl should not have <anyAttribute>

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-177

Proposal in Jira

[15:44] Ashok1: Bryan moves and MikeE seconds to open Java-177

[15:44] Ashok1: Motion passed unanimously

[15:44] Ashok1: Mark:  Can we resolve?

[15:45] Ashok1: Bryan explains proposal

[15:45] Ashok1: Bryan moves and MikeE seconds to resolve Java-177

[15:45] Ashok1: Motion passed unanimously

[15:45] Ashok1: Java-177 is resolved

[15:46] Ashok1: Topic: Open Issues

a. JAVA-149: SCA Spring C & I specification need to specify the limitations of implicit references

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-149

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00042.html

[15:47] Ashok1: Mike explains proposal

[15:51] Ashok1: ... suggests we close 149 with no action

[15:51] Ashok1: ... or add a minimum amount of explanatory text

[15:56] Ashok1: MikeE moves to resolve 149 by adding explanatory text in email referenced

[15:56] Ashok1: Ram seconds

[15:56] Ashok1: No objection motion passes w/o objection

[15:56] Ashok1: Java 149 is resolved

[15:57] Ashok1: b. JAVA-167: SCA Spring C & I specification should make type attribute as optional for <sca:service/> element

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-167

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00052.html

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33810/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD04%2BIssue167.doc 

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33811/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD04%2BIssue167.pdf

[15:59] anonymous morphed into anish

[16:03] Ashok1: Mike explains the proposal

[16:03] Ashok1: No questions

[16:03] Ashok1: Mike moves to resolve issue 167 using the proposal linked in the agenda

[16:03] Ashok1: Ram seconds

[16:04] Ashok1: Motion approved w/o objection

[16:04] Ashok1: Java-167 is resolved

[16:04] Ashok1: Mark:  That's the end of the agenda

[16:05] Ashok1: Let's run thru issues w/o proposals

[16:06] Ashok1: Topic: Issues without proposals

a. JAVA-62: Clarify what a Component Implementation can do with threads

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-62

No proposal

[16:06] Ashok1: Mark:  I will write a proposal for this

[16:06] Ashok1: JAVA-156: Intent annotations are missing from Java CAA as compared to Policy FW spec

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-156

[16:07] Ashok1: Dave will write proposal for this

[16:07] Ashok1: AOB

[16:10] Ashok1: Ashok:  Do will still need the Friday calls  The agendas have been light

[16:10] Ashok1: Discussion

[16:12] Ashok1: Mark:  Keep both calls till after Labor Day and then discuss again

[16:13] Ashok1: Straggler Roll - Anish, Martin

[16:14] Mark Combellack: meeting adjourned

 

 

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