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[10:48] Mark Combellack: - Roll Call http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j - Appointment of scribe. List attached below - Agenda bashing - Approval of minutes for 22nd February 2010 http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36550/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-02-22.doc 0. Administration - Open Issue Status: CAA + POJO: 0 EJB Binding: 0 Spring: 2 JEE: 6 Total Open: 8 1. Review action items: Action Items that I believe are done: Action Items that I believe are still to be done: 2009-07-06-01: Dave B to raise to liaison (so that other C&Is can consider and possibly assembly) that non-XML based C&Is should state how the conversion of property values happens 2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example of the componentType introspection (JAVA-58 ) 2009-09-28-05: Dave to look at unstated prereqs for JCI-TA-8005/8006 2009-11-09-01: Anish to point out specific locations for editorial corrections (s/./,/) for issue 150 proposal. 2010-02-01-04: Mike to look at JAVA-182 and prepare a CD draft for Spring C&I 2010-02-15-04: Chairs to submit the specs to TC admin for PR (when the packages are ready) 2010-02-22-01: Dave & Mike to work to get the Javadoc complete and matching the spec for detail 2010-02-22-02: Dave to raise the necessary issue for @Remotable annotation on <interface.java/> (Related to recent Assembly-218 discussions) 2. Progress to Public Review a. Editorial issues with Java CAA CD04 See: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00068.html (Mike) b. SCA CAA API JavaDoc See: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00079.html (Dave) c. Status of POJO (C&I) CD03, CAA CD04 and EJB Binding CD02 3. New Issues (Requires 2/3rds) None 4. Remaining Open Issues for JAA and POJO specifications None 5. Open Issues with proposals ready for discussion (Spring/EJB/JEE) a. JAVA-166: Spring C&I does not say anything about SCA annotations http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-166 Proposed wording: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00060.html (Anish) 6. Issues waiting for updated proposals (Spring/EJB/JEE) a. JAVA-109: Property and reference names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109 Proposal in Jira Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi) b. JAVA-182: SCA Spring C & I specs needs to refactor text under abstract and introduction http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182 No proposal (Ram) c. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the SCA JEE specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174 d. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define the derivation of the name of a component contributed to the Domain by an application.composite file http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91 Waiting for updated proposal (Mike) e. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs to define how effective CT is calculated http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93 Waiting for updated proposal (Anish) f. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed for the SCA-JEE Specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108 Waiting for updated proposal g. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive attribute of the implementation.jee element needs fixing http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88 No proposal Plamen to check whether on his informal JEE issues list h. JAVA-166: Spring C&I does not say anything about SCA annotations http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-166 Directional proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00000.html (Anish) (Note: May be able to make progress on JAVA-144 depending on what happens with this issue) 7. AOB a. Straggler roll call --------------------------------------------------------------- Rotating scribe list: Graham Charters IBM (5) Yang Lei IBM (11) Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (3) Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (16) Bryan Aupperle IBM (21) Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (18 ) Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (15) Mike Edwards IBM (17)
[10:57] Mike Edwards: Dave's going to be a tad late
[10:58] Mark Combellack: OK thanks Mike
[11:06] Bryan Aupperle: Scribe: Bryan Aupperle
[11:06] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Agenda Bashing
[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: Posted agenda accepted
[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Approval of Minutes of 22 Feb.
[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Minutes of 22 Feb. approved
[11:08] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Action Items
[11:08] Bryan Aupperle: 2010-02-15-04 - Done
[11:08] Bryan Aupperle: 2010-02-22-01 - Done
[11:09] Bryan Aupperle: All others ongoing.
[11:09] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Progress to Public Review
[11:10] Bryan Aupperle: Packages for CAA, JCI and EJB Binding have been submitted.
[11:12] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: remotable attribute of interface.java
[11:12] Bryan Aupperle: Mike summarizes latest e-mail
[11:15] Bryan Aupperle: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/201002/msg00076.html
[11:22] Bryan Aupperle: General discussion of potential scenarios that may or may not apply.
[11:23] Bryan Aupperle: AI 2010-02-22-02 is reassigned to Mike.
[11:24] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: JAVA-166: Spring C&I does not say anything about SCA annotations http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-166 Proposed wording: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00060.html
[11:25] anish: It is beyond the scope of this specification to define the interpretation of the annotations specified in the SCA Common Annotations and API Specification [ref]. An implementation can ignore SCA annotations that are present in classes used by the application context.
[11:26] anish: It is not necessary for an implementation of this specification to support annotations specified in SCA Common Annotations and API Specification [ref]. Such an implementation can ignore SCA annotations that are present in classes used by the application context.
[11:29] Bryan Aupperle: General acceptance of first set of words here.
[11:29] anish: resolution wordings: It is beyond the scope of this specification to define the interpretation of the annotations specified in the SCA Common Annotations and API Specification [ref]. An implementation can ignore SCA annotations that are present in classes used by the application context.
[11:30] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Anish, second Martin: Resolve issue 166 with wording: It is beyond the scope of this specification to define the interpretation of the annotations specified in the SCA Common Annotations and API Specification [ref]. An implementation can ignore SCA annotations that are present in classes used by the application context.
[11:31] Bryan Aupperle: Discussion on location for words.
[11:31] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: put it in the componetType section
[11:31] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[11:32] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: are we done with Spring issues?
[11:33] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: No, issue 182 is open and AI 2010-02-01-04 for editorial work will address it.
[11:33] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: should we plan for a first public review of the Spring spec?
[11:33] Bryan Aupperle: Dave: yess
[11:33] Bryan Aupperle: s/yess/yes
[11:34] Bryan Aupperle: Dave: WD05 is the latest draft.
[11:34] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: There is at least one issue applied since WD05.
[11:36] Bryan Aupperle: Dave: Jira shows 8 issues to be applied (including 166)
[11:37] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: Just a bunch of editorial work to be done.
[11:37] Bryan Aupperle: Bryan: Formatting will be needed as well.
[11:39] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: What are our priorities - finish JEE spec or update test suite material?
[11:39] anish: +1 to test artifacts
[11:39] Bryan Aupperle: Dave: We have not had a PR of any of the test suites, so my pref is to work on the test suites.
[11:41] Bryan Aupperle: Dave: We have good start on the CAA and PoJo specs.
[11:42] Bryan Aupperle: Bryan: But CAA needs a bunch more TAs and TCs for the new API normative statements
[11:42] Bryan Aupperle: Dave: No work yet on EJB Binding
[11:43] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: Will have to consult Tuscany folks about these test cases.
[11:44] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: Initial focus should be on CAA and PoJo test suites
[11:47] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: AOB
[11:47] Bryan Aupperle: Meeting adjourned
[11:47] Mike Edwards: woo hoo - 10 minutes back!
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