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Subject: Raw minutes for TC meeting of 16 August 2010



1. Roll call

2. Confirm minute taker
Derek Dougans (0)
Graham Charters IBM (5)
Yang Lei IBM (11)
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (3)
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (17)
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (20)
Mike Edwards IBM (19)
Bryan Aupperle IBM (24)
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (1

3. Agenda bashing

4. Meeting Minutes
Vote to accept minutes from July 12 2010
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/38605/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-07-12.doc

5. TC Administrivia:
a. Recording issue status - 7 open
b. Election of a co-chair

6. ACTION ITEMS:
a. 2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5
b. 2010-02-01-04: Mike to look at JAVA-182 and prepare a CD draft for Spring C&I
c. 2010-02-22-02: Mike to raise the necessary issue for @Remotable annotation on (Related to recent Assembly-218 discussions)
d. 2010-04-12-01: Dave B to check availability of an appropriate runtime supporting the EJB Binding
e. 2010-06-14-01: Anish to provide proposal for Issue JAVA-182
f. 2010-07-12-01: status=done: Mike to produce CD01/PR01 package for CAA TC and TA and suite
g. 2010-08-16-01: Editors-Update inline schema to latest published Assembly Schema.
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201007/msg00024.html

7. New Issues (requires 2/3)
a. ISSUE 201: @Remotable can only apply to a Class/Interface but statements in section 8 of Java POJO spec contradict this
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-201

b. ISSUE 202: Need test cases for Assembly Test Assertions
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-202

c. ISSUE 203: Statements about @WebServiceProvider are not adequate
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-203

d. ISSUE 204: Normative statement about @BindingType in POJO spec is not enforceable
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-204

e. ISSUE 205: Problem with Java CAA testcase JCA_11009
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-205

f. ISSUE 206: Issues/Question for Java CI testcases POJO_8017, POJO_8023, POJO_8028
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-206

8. New spec revisions
a. http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201007/msg00013.html

9. Issues waiting for updated proposals (Spring/EJB/JEE)
a. JAVA-109: Property and reference names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109
Proposal in Jira
Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi)

b. JAVA-182: SCA Spring C & I specs needs to refactor text under abstract and introduction
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182
No proposal (Ram)

c. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the SCA JEE specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174

d. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define the derivation of the name of a component contributed to the Domain by an application.composite file
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91
Waiting for updated proposal (Mike)

e. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs to define how effective CT is calculated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93
Waiting for updated proposal (Anish)

f. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed for the SCA-JEE Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108
Waiting for updated proposal

g. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive attribute of the implementation.jee element needs fixing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88
No proposal
Plamen to check whether on his informal JEE issues list

10. Test Suite Discussion
a. Updated documents
POJO Test Assertions:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38844/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-test-assertions-wd09.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38845/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-test-assertions-wd09.odt

POJO Test Cases:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38853/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-testcases-wd06.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38842/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-testcases-wd06.odt

11. AOB
a. straggler roll


Minute taker: Mike Edwards

Item 3 Agenda Bashing:
No changes
Item 4 Meeting Minutes:
Minutes from July 12th
Minutes are accepted for July 12 without changes
Item 5 TC Adminstrivia
a) 7 Open Issues
b) Election of a Co-Chair
Mike E moves to elect Anish Karmarkar as co-chair of the OASIS SCA-J TC
Seconded by Bryan
Motion passes unanimously
Anish is elected as co-chair of this TC
Item 6 Action Items
a. 2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5
b. 2010-02-01-04: Mike to look at JAVA-182 and prepare a CD draft for Spring C&I
c. 2010-02-22-02: Mike to raise the necessary issue for @Remotable annotation on (Related to recent Assembly-218 discussions)
d. 2010-04-12-01: Dave B to check availability of an appropriate runtime supporting the EJB Binding
e. 2010-06-14-01: Anish to provide proposal for Issue JAVA-182
f. 2010-07-12-01: status=done: Mike to produce CD01/PR01 package for CAA TC and TA and suite
g. 2010-08-16-01: Editors-Update inline schema to latest published Assembly Schema.
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201007/msg00024.html
Dave discusses the final item - that the editors must update the content of the specs
It is just an editorial update of the name of the SCA core XSD  file

Item 7 New Issues

ISSUE 201: @Remotable can only apply to a Class/Interface but statements in section 8 of Java POJO spec contradict this
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-201
anish: original email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201007/msg00061.html
Mike describes the issue, which is a contradiction in the spec
Mike moves to open Issue 201.  Anish seconds
Motion passes unanimously.
Issue 201 is opened.

ISSUE 202: Need test cases for Assembly Test Assertions
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-202
Bryan describes the issue.
Bryan moves to open Issue 202. Mike seconds
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 202 is opened

ISSUE 203: Statements about @WebServiceProvider are not adequate
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-203
Mike describes the issue
Mike moves to open Issue 203.  Bryan seconds.
Motion passes unanimously.
Issue 203 is opened

ISSUE 204: Normative statement about @BindingType in POJO spec is not enforceable
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-204
Mike describes the issue
Bryan: we added this when we added all the JAXWS annotation material earlier this year
Mike moves to open Issue 204.  Bryan seconds.
Motion passes unanimously.
Issue 204 is opened.

ISSUE 205: Problem with Java CAA testcase JCA_11009
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-205
Dave Booz: dont think it matters anish
Mike describes the issue
Mike moves to open issue 205. Bryan seconds.
Motion passses unanimously
Issue 205 is opened

ISSUE 206: Issues/Question for Java CI testcases POJO_8017, POJO_8023, POJO_8028
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-206
anish all the issues we have discussed so far have been updated to have the right Assignee
Mike describes the issue
Mike moves to open Issue 206  Bryan seconds
Motion accepted unanimously
Issue 206 is opened
anish: http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-j/
anish: so CD has been published but PR not started?

ACTION: 20100816-01: Mike to chase up with Mary what happened to the CAA Test Suite Public Review

ISSUE 201: @Remotable can only apply to a Class/Interface but statements in section 8 of Java POJO spec contradict this
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-201
Mike explains the proposal in the JIRA
- broaden the declaration of @Remotable
Anish: Not sure what it means to have @Remotable on a Field or a Setter Method...
Mike: It's the case where a reference is being set through a Field or a Setter or a Constructor parameter, and the interface type is one that does not have @Remotable - it allows the use of a "non-SCA" interface (unannotated) in an SCA context, where it is known that the interface really is remotable...
Mike moves to resolve Issue 201 with the proposal in JIRA.  Bryan seconds.
Motion passes unanimously.
Issue 201 is resolved with the proposal in JIRA

ISSUE 202: Need test cases for Assembly Test Assertions
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-202
Bryan: There is a statement in the Java CAA spec that effectively duplicates stuff in the Assembly spec relating to not allowing method overriding in remotable interfaces.
Bryan Aupperle: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/201008/msg00009.html
Bryan Aupperle: Specifics are here:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38876/sca-j-caa-1.1-testcases-cd01%20Issue202.odt
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38877/sca-j-caa-1.1-testcases-cd01%20Issue202.pdf
and here:
http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/sca-j/TestCases/#_TestCases_
Above link is to the proposal email and to the proposal documents
Changes:
a) Add normative link to the Assembly spec
b) Add 2 new testcases 1001, 1002
(moved over from Assembly test suote)
c) Modify description of testcase 2001 to address Assembly TA 8001
All the testcases have been implemented and do run correctly against Apache Tuscany
+ changes in the appendixes in the back
Dave - should the references to the Assembly TAs be explicitly tagged?
Mike: That is a simple editorial question
Bryan moves to resolve issue 202 as described in the email http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/201008/msg00009.html.  Seconded by Anish
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 202 is resolved

ISSUE 206: Issues/Question for Java CI testcases POJO_8017, POJO_8023, POJO_8028
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-206
Mike outlines the proposal in the JIRA - small changes to each of the testcases
Mike moves to resolve Issue 206 with the proposal in JIRA.  Bryan seconds.
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 206 is resolved with the proposal in JIRA.

ISSUE 205: Problem with Java CAA testcase JCA_11009
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-205
Mike describes the proposal in the JIRA
Mike moves to resolve Issue 205 with the proposal in JIRA.  Bryan seconds.
Motion passes unanimously.
Issue 205 is resolved with the proposal in JIRA.
AOB
Stragglers
COB
Next meeting 23 August

Yours,  Mike.

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