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Subject: Raw chat log of 2010-09-13 telcon
anish: Agenda -- anish: 1. Roll call 2. Scribe appointment Scribe list attached below 3. Agenda bashing 4. Meeting Minutes Minutes of 2010-08-30 telcon http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/39143/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-08-30.doc 5. TC Administrivia a. Recording issue status - 9 open, 4 new b. LOA for Martin Chapman, sept 7-17 2010 c. Future calls? 6. Spec statuses a. PR of CAA TestCases and TAs ends 2010-10-24 b. CAA, POJO and EJB binding: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201007/msg00013.html c. Spring C&I: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201008/msg00030.html 7. ACTION ITEMS 2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5 PENDING 2010-02-22-02: Mike to raise the necessary issue for @Remotable annotation on (Related to recent Assembly-218 discussions) PENDING 2010-04-12-01: Dave B to check availability of an appropriate runtime supporting the EJB Binding PENDING 2010-06-14-01: Anish to provide proposal for Issue JAVA-182 and prepare a CD PENDING 2010-08-16-01: Editors-Update inline schema to latest published Assembly Schema (need update of the name of the SCA core XSD file) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201007/msg00024.html PENDING 2010-08-30-01: Bryan to create formal proposal for JAVA-204 DONE http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/39223/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-cd02-rev1%2BIssue204.doc 8. New Issues (requires 2/3) a. JAVA-207 Problems with testcases JCA_8007, JCA_8011 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-207 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201008/msg00036.html b. JAVA-211 Problems with testcases JCA_10013 & JCA_9016 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-211 c. JAVA-212 Service name conflict between @Service and @WebService http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-212 d. JAVA-213 Remove impact of @WebFault on interface fault name. http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-213 (Proposal for 209 relies on proposal for this issue) 9. Issues with proposals a. JAVA-204: Normative statement about @BindingType in POJO spec is not enforceable http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-204 Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201009/msg00010.html b. JAVA-209: Test assertions and Test cases needed for JCA100023 through JCA100027 http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-209 Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201009/msg00016.html (dependency on 213) 10. Issues waiting for updated proposals (Spring/EJB/JEE) a. JAVA-109: Property and reference names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109 Proposal in Jira Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi) b. JAVA-182: SCA Spring C & I specs needs to refactor text under abstract and introduction http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182 No proposal (Ram) c. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the SCA JEE specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174 d. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define the derivation of the name of a component contributed to the Domain by an application.composite file http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91 Waiting for updated proposal (Mike) e. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs to define how effective CT is calculated http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93 Waiting for updated proposal (Anish) f. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed for the SCA-JEE Specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108 Waiting for updated proposal g. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive attribute of the implementation.jee element needs fixing http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88 No proposal Plamen to check whether on his informal JEE issues list 11. Test Suite Discussion POJO Test Assertions: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38844/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-test-assertions-wd09.pdf http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38845/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-test-assertions-wd09.odt POJO Test Cases: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38853/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-testcases-wd06.pdf http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38842/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-testcases-wd06.odt 12. AOB a. straggler role ----------------------------------------- Scribe list: Derek Dougans: 0 Graham Charters: 5 Yang Lei IBM: 11 Plamen Pavlov: 3 Anish Karmarkar: 17 Ashok Malhotra: 20 Martin Chapman: 18 Mike Edwards: 20 (Last scribed: 2010-08-16) Bryan Aupperle: 25 (Last scribed: 2010-08-23) Dave Booz: 1 (Last scribed: 2010-08-30) anish: quorum: 83% anish: Scribe: Anish Karmarkar anish: Topic: agenda bashing anish: Agenda approved anish: Topic: Approval of 2010-08-30 minutes anish: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/39143/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-08-30.doc anish: Minutes approved anish: Topic: future calls anish: Mike: plenty of work to do anish: ... spring, jee, testing anish: Resolution: schedule weekly calls till we are done. Cancel calls if there are no agenda items. anish: Topic: AI review anish: AI 2010-08-30-01 is DONE everything else is PENDING anish: Topic: New issue 207 anish: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-207 anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201008/msg00036.html anish: Mike: found this issue while testing with Tuscany anish: Mike walks everyone thru the issue anish: Dave: why do we have intents for test 8011 anish: Dave fine with it, this pattern is used in other places anish: Mike: little awkward, but only way to get to work anish: Mike moves, Dave seconds to open issue 207 anish: approved w/o anish: Topic: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-211 anish: Mike: 2 tests that are incorrect. 10013 and 9016 anish: 10013 is flawed, does not test if the annotation is being introspected properly anish: three problems with 9016: anish: a) The properties validDomainURIString, invalidDomainURIString are used in a constructor before they are initialized b) DomainURIs are not fixed and so need to be configurable - this requires the value of validDomainURIString to be settable by the SCA runtime owner c) Currently, there is a reference in the Service1SCAClientImpl class that effectively refers to itself anish: Mike moves, Dave seconds to open issue 211 anish: motion approved w/o anish: Issue 211 is now open anish: Topic: issue 212 anish: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-212 anish: Bryan: interesting problem with JAX-WS annotations anish: ... rules conflict with both @Service and @WebServices annotations are present anish: ... we either need to define a precedence or say that an error should be raised anish: ... this spans both the JCAA and JCI specs anish: Bryan moves, Mike seconds to open issue 212 anish: motion approved w/o anish: Issue 212 is now open anish: Topic: issue 213 anish: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-213 anish: Remove impact of @WebFault on interface fault name anish: @WebFault annotation only impacts the name of the global element that contains the type info for the fault. It does not impact the name of the fault anish: This affects both the JCAA and JCI spec anish: Byran moves, Dave seconds to open 213 anish: motion approved w/o anish: Issue 213 is now open anish: Topic: issue 204 anish: Normative statement about @BindingType in POJO spec is not enforceable http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-204 Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201009/msg00010.html anish: Bryan: three places 8.2.3, 8.2.4, 8.2.5 where there is an ed change anish: ... main changes in 8.2.8 anish: Bryan walks through 8.2.8 and explains how the URLs affect intents anish: Bryan: URL for JMS is missing, that needs to be added anish: Mike: the 1st sentence in 8.2.8 says that by default it is soap 1.1. If we make it an intent it is hard to change that. anish: Bryan: 8.2.8.1 1st sentence talks about what would happen if the default is not acceptable anish: Discussion about what default means, intent means and whether additional bindings can be added anish: The intent is on the binding, so can add additional bindings that are non-soap 1.1 anish: Mike: what about the last two rows in table 8-1? anish: Bryan: last row, there was a URI sent out in email anish: ... 2nd last row, we don't have a URI for HTTP binding anish: s/URI/intent/ Bryan Aupperle: The latest editors copy of the spec [1] lists "http://www.w3.org/2010/soapjms/"; as the binding transport URI. Bryan Aupperle: For any other URI the mapped intents are undefined. anish: Bryan moves to resolve issue 204 with proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201009/msg00010.html with the following modification: 1) last row of the table add "http://www.w3.org/2010/soapjms/"; to the 1st column, 2) delete the 6th row of the table, 3) Add the following sentence above table 8-1: "For any other URI not listed in the table, the mapped intents are undefined." anish: 6th row => row with HTTP binding anish: Mike seconds anish: Motion is approved w/o anish: Issue 204 is resolved. anish: Topic: Issue 213 anish: http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-213 anish: Proposal: Change the @WebFault content of table 11.2 of the CAA spec to remove the impact of the name attribute on the interface, removing normative statement JCA100027, and remove section 8.2.6 of the JCI spec anish: Bryan moves to resolve issue 213 with proposal in JIRA, Dave seconds anish: motion approved w/o anish: Meeting adjourned
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