TC Meeting Raw Text

[Mike Edwards <mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com>]

Raw text for meeting of 22nd November:

Agenda --
1. Roll call

2. Scribe appointment
Scribe list attached below

3. Agenda bashing

4. Meeting Minutes
Minutes of 2010-11-15 telcon
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/40247/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-11-15.doc

5. TC Administrivia
a. Recording issue status - 10 open,
0 new
b. Status of new CSD/PR for CAA-spec/POJO-spec/POJO-TA/POJO-TC

6. ACTION ITEMS

2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example
of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5
PENDING

2010-04-12-01: Dave B to check availability
of an appropriate runtime supporting the EJB Binding
PENDING

2010-06-14-01: Mike/Anish to provide
proposal for Issue JAVA-182 and prepare a CD
PENDING

2010-11-08-02: Mike to produce comments
on issues 217-221
PENDING

2010-11-15-01: Anish to create new PR
components in JIRA
PENDING

2010-11-15-02: Mike to follow up with
Jacques on 217, 218, and 219
PENDING

7. New Issues (requires 2/3)
NONE

8. Issues with proposals
NONE

9. Issues waiting for updated proposals
(Spring/EJB/JEE)

a. JAVA-217 Weak design: Target is often
not well identified, in several TAs
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-217

d. JAVA-220 Target should not be an
"event", but an identifiable entity
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-220

e. JAVA-221 Stronger use of "tags"
might help classify TAs based on targets
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-221

f. JAVA-109: Property and reference
names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109
Proposal in Jira
Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi)

g. JAVA-182: SCA Spring C & I specs
needs to refactor text under abstract and introduction
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182
No proposal (Ram)

h. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the
SCA JEE specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174

i. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define
the derivation of the name of a component contributed to the Domain by
an application.composite file
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91
Waiting for updated proposal (Mike)

j. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs
to define how effective CT is calculated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93
Waiting for updated proposal (Anish)

k. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed
for the SCA-JEE Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108
Waiting for updated proposal

l. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive
attribute of the implementation.jee element needs fixing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88
No proposal
Plamen to check whether on his informal
JEE issues list

10. AOB
a. straggler role

11. Spec status

CAA (part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
0 open issue, 1st PR done, CSD05 expected
to be final CSD
1st impl: Tuscany (compliant), 2nd impl:
??
TA: CD01 PR ended 2010-10-24, 0 open
issue, CSD02 expected to be final CSD
TC: CD01 PR ended 2010-10-24, 0 open
issue, CSD02 expected to be final CSD

POJO (part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
0 open issues, 1st PR done, CSD03 expected
to be final CSD
1st impl: Tuscany (compliant), 2nd impl:
??
TA: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR
needed
TC: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR
needed

EJB Binding (not part of 1st batch of
1.1 specs):
0 open issues, 1st PR done, CSD03 expected
to be final CSD
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ??
TA: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR
needed
TC: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR
needed

Spring C&I (not part of 1st batch
of 1.1 specs):
1 open issues, WD stage, no CSD yet,
60 day PR needed
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ??
TA: no work done
TC: no work done

JEE (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
6 open issues, WD stage (not actively
worked on), no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ??
TA: no work done
TC: no work done

4 of 7 present
Scribe: MIke Edwards

Item 3 Agenda Bashing
no changes
Item 4 Meeting Minutes
Minutes from 15th November
Approved without change
Item 5 Administrivia
10 open issues, 0 new
b) Status of new CSD/PR
CSD for CAA & POJO specs - marked
"OK waiting for Upload"
TA & TC - status not updated
Item 6 Action Items
2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example
of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5 
PENDING 

2010-04-12-01: Dave B to check availability
of an appropriate runtime supporting the EJB Binding 
PENDING 

2010-06-14-01: Mike/Anish to provide
proposal for Issue JAVA-182 and prepare a CD 
PENDING 

2010-11-08-02: Mike to produce comments
on issues 217-221 
PENDING 

2010-11-15-01: Anish to create new PR
components in JIRA 
PENDING 

2010-11-15-02: Mike to follow up with
Jacques on 217, 218, and 219 
PENDING
Item 9 Issues waiting for Updated Proposals

1. JAVA-217 Weak design: Target is often
not well identified, in several TAs 
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-217
No change in status since last week
(Mike has not emailed Jacques)

2. JAVA-220 Target should not be an
"event", but an identifiable entity 
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-220
Discussion of the nature of the problem
identified
Mike: I think that these TAs must work
on "observables" - and an invocation of a method on a service
implementation object is an observable - you can instrument the method
to make measurements - and this is not an "event" but an object
that can be tested
Anish: Need to ask Jacques which other
TAs this applies to...
Anish: Tell Jacques your rationale of
how to deal with these issues and see what he says
(both of these directed at Mike who
already has an Action Item for contacting Jacques)

3. JAVA-221 Stronger use of "tags"
might help classify TAs based on targets 
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-221
Discussion of whether it is possible
to consistently identify "artifacts" that are the subject of
the TA - possible when dealing with XML elements, but not so clear
Dave: who is the audience for the tags
- not sure we understand this
Anish: Can you add this to your emails
to Jacques, Mike?
Mike: OK
anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201011/msg00058.html

4.  JAVA-182: SCA Spring C &
I specs needs to refactor text under abstract and introduction 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182

Mike Edwards uploaded file: sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD05+Issue182.doc
Discussion of the updated documentWD05_Issue182
Anish: Best to have the first paragraph
of Section 1 to match that of the Abstract
Mike: I'll do that
Anish: Feedback regarding places where
additional examples are needed:
- Anish will send an example or two
in an email
Mike will work to complete "part
2" of the proposal for Issue 182

COB

Yours, Mike

Dr Mike Edwards		Mail Point 146, Hursley Park
STSM		Winchester, Hants SO21 2JN
SCA & Services Standards		United Kingdom
Co-Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC
IBM Software Group
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