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Subject: Today's chat log


Here is the raw chat log

Bryan Aupperle, Ph.D.
STSM, WebSphere Enterprise Platform Software Solution Architect
WW Center of Excellence for Enterprise Systems & Banking Center of Excellence Application Integration Architect

Research Triangle Park,  NC
+1 919-254-7508 (T/L 444-7508)
Internet Address: aupperle@us.ibm.com
[11:02] Mike Edwards: 1. Roll call 

2. Scribe appointment 
Scribe list attached below 

3. Agenda bashing 

4. Meeting Minutes 
Minutes of 2010-11-22 telcon 
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/40354/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-11-22.doc 

5. TC Administrivia 
a. Recording issue status - 10 open, 2 new 
b. Status of new CSD/PR for CAA-spec/POJO-spec/POJO-TA/POJO-TC 
POJO TA/TCs PR ends 2010-12-23 
CAA-spec/POJO-spec PR ends 2010-12-08 

6. ACTION ITEMS 

2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5 
PENDING 

2010-04-12-01: Dave B to check availability of an appropriate runtime supporting the EJB Binding 
PENDING 

2010-06-14-01: Mike/Anish to provide proposal for Issue JAVA-182 and prepare a CD 
PENDING 

2010-11-15-01: Anish to create new PR components in JIRA 
PENDING 

2010-11-15-02: Mike to follow up with Jacques on 217, 218, ,219, 220, and 221 
PENDING 

7. New Issues (requires 2/3) 
a. JAVA-223 
Comment on @WebParam/@WebResult (PR comment) 
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-223 

b. JAVA-224 
Support for JSR-330 - Dependency Injection for Java 
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-224 

8. Issues with proposals 
NONE 

9. Issues waiting for updated proposals (Spring/EJB/JEE) 

a. JAVA-217 Weak design: Target is often not well identified, in several TAs 
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-217 

d. JAVA-220 Target should not be an "event", but an identifiable entity 
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-220 

e. JAVA-221 Stronger use of "tags" might help classify TAs based on targets 
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-221 

f. JAVA-109: Property and reference names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109 
Proposal in Jira 
Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi) 

g. JAVA-182: SCA Spring C & I specs needs to refactor text under abstract and introduction 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182 
No proposal (Ram) 

h. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the SCA JEE specification 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174 

i. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define the derivation of the name of a component contributed to the Domain by an application.composite file 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91 
Waiting for updated proposal (Mike) 

j. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs to define how effective CT is calculated 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93 
Waiting for updated proposal (Anish) 

k. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed for the SCA-JEE Specification 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108 
Waiting for updated proposal 

l. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive attribute of the implementation.jee element needs fixing 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88 
No proposal 
Plamen to check whether on his informal JEE issues list 

10. AOB 
a. straggler role 

11. Spec status 

CAA (part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs): 
2 new issue, 2nd PR ends 2010-12-08, CSD05 expected to be final CSD 
1st impl: Tuscany (compliant), 2nd impl: ?? 
TA: CD01 PR ended 2010-10-24, 0 open issue, CSD02 expected to be final CSD 
TC: CD01 PR ended 2010-10-24, 0 open issue, CSD02 expected to be final CSD 

POJO (part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs): 
0 open issues, 2st PR ends 2010-12-08, CSD03 expected to be final CSD 
1st impl: Tuscany (compliant), 2nd impl: ?? 
TA: CSD01 PR ends 2010-12-23 
TC: CDS01 PR ends 2010-12-23 

EJB Binding (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs): 
0 open issues, 1st PR done, CSD03 expected to be final CSD 
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ?? 
TA: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed 
TC: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed 

Spring C&I (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs): 
1 open issues, WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed 
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ?? 
TA: no work done 
TC: no work done 

JEE (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs): 
6 open issues, WD stage (not actively worked on), no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed 
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ?? 
TA: no work done 
TC: no work done
[11:04] anish: 5 of 7 present
[11:05] Bryan Aupperle: Scribe: Bryan Aupperle
[11:06] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Agenda
[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: Agenda agreed
[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Approval of Minutes
[11:07] Mike Edwards: we could switch to the Assembly TC callin # if required
[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Minutes Approved
[11:13] Bryan Aupperle: Discussion about working draft numbering after a CSD.
[11:13] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: we could use a scheme like WD0501 for the first WD after CDS05.
[11:15] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: The revision number has to be a 2 digit number.  So we could use WD 51 as the first working draft after CSD05
[11:15] anish: http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/ndr/namingDirectives.html
[11:16] Bryan Aupperle: Bryan: That would work so long as there are no more that 9 WD prior to the first CSD.
[11:18] Bryan Aupperle: Martin: Try a 3 digit number so 501 would be the first working draft after CSD05
[11:18] MartinC: JFDI
[11:18] Bryan Aupperle: 3-digit approach agreed.
[11:19] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Action Items
[11:20] Bryan Aupperle: 2010-11-15-01 - Being created as comments received.
[11:20] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: So this item is done.
[11:20] Bryan Aupperle: All others pending.
[11:20] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: JAVA-223 
Comment on @WebParam/@WebResult (PR comment) 
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-223
[11:27] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Mike, second Martin - Open Issue 223
[11:27] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: motions passes w/o
[11:27] Bryan Aupperle: AI: (Bryan) Draft proposed response to issues.
[11:28] Bryan Aupperle: s/issues/issue/
[11:28] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: JAVA-224 
Support for JSR-330 - Dependency Injection for Java 
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-224
[11:29] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: License for JSR is problematic.
[11:30] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: JSR is part of JEE 6.
[11:30] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: License should have changed in that case.
[11:30] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: We should check to see if Spring has implemented this.
[11:31] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Bryan, second Dave - Open Issue 224
[11:32] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[11:33] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: JAVA-182: SCA Spring C & I specs needs to refactor text under abstract and introduction 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182
[11:34] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: I have updated the diagrams.
[11:34] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: Text related to diagrams is in progress.
[11:35] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: Examples are next (after 182 work is finished)
[11:35] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: AOB - Straggler Role
[11:36] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Action Items
[11:37] Bryan Aupperle: 2010-04-12-01 - Dave has checked with Tuscany.  They has reference support but not service and no other implementation has any EJB Binding support that I could fine.
[11:38] Bryan Aupperle: s/fine/find/
[11:38] Bryan Aupperle: So AI should be marked done.
[11:39] Bryan Aupperle: Meeting Adjouned
[11:39] anish no one on the call, i'll update here in the chat
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