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Subject: Raw chat log of 2011-02-07 call
Dave Booz: agenda: 1. Roll call 2. Scribe appointment Scribe list attached below 3. Agenda bashing 4. Meeting Minutes Minutes of 2011-01-31 telcon http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/40959/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202011-01-31.doc 5. TC Administrivia a. Recording issue status - 13 open, 0 new b. Filenames for POJO test case and test assertion docs 6. ACTION ITEMS 2010-11-15-02: Mike to follow up with Jacques on 217, 218, ,219, 220, and 221 PENDING 20101206-01: (Anish) Prepare an updated proposal for Issue 182 with extra example material and further editorial updates PENDING 20101206-02: (Mike) Post a comment to the list with a strawman proposal for Issue 224 20110124-02: (Anish) Take up the Links question relating to JAVA-227 with TC-Admin - aim to get the links updated without requiring a new CSD or public review 7. New Issues (requires 2/3) NONE 8. Issues with proposals a. JAVA-226: TAB comments on POJO CI TAs http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-226 http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/40960/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-test-assertions-1.0-csprd01_Issue226.odt http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/40961/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-test-assertions-1.0-csprd01_Issue226.pdf 9. Issues waiting for updated proposals (Spring/EJB/JEE) a. JAVA-227: TAB comments on POJO CI TCs http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-227 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201101/msg00009.html b. JAVA-182: SCA Spring C & I specs needs to refactor text under abstract and introduction http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182 Awaiting an action from Anish c. JAVA-217 Weak design: Target is often not well identified, in several TAs http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-217 d. JAVA-220 Target should not be an "event", but an identifiable entity http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-220 e. JAVA-221 Stronger use of "tags" might help classify TAs based on targets http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-221 f. JAVA-225 Ambiguity about the implicit reference interface in the introspected component type of a Spring app context http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-225 g. JAVA-109: Property and reference names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109 Proposal in Jira Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi) h. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the SCA JEE specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174 i. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define the derivation of the name of a component contributed to the Domain by an application.composite file http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91 Waiting for updated proposal (Mike) j. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs to define how effective CT is calculated http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93 Waiting for updated proposal (Anish) k. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed for the SCA-JEE Specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108 Waiting for updated proposal l. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive attribute of the implementation.jee element needs fixing http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88 No proposal Plamen to check whether on his informal JEE issues list 10. AOB a. straggler role 11. Spec status CAA (part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs): 2 new issue, 2nd PR ended 2010-12-08, CSD05 expected to be final CSD 1st impl: Tuscany (compliant), 2nd impl: ?? http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201012/msg00000.htmlhttp://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201012/msg00000.htmlTA: CD01 PR ended 2010-10-24, 0 open issue, CSD02 expected to be final CSD TC: CD01 PR ended 2010-10-24, 0 open issue, CSD02 expected to be final CSD POJO (part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs): 0 open issues, 2st PR ended 2010-12-08, CSD03 expected to be final CSD 1st impl: Tuscany (compliant), 2nd impl: ?? TA: CSD01 PR ended 2010-12-23 TC: CDS01 PR ended 2010-12-23 EJB Binding (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs): 0 open issues, 1st PR done, CSD03 expected to be final CSD 1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ?? TA: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed TC: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed Spring C&I (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs): 1 open issues, WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed 1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ?? TA: no work done TC: no work done JEE (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs): 6 open issues, WD stage (not actively worked on), no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed 1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ?? TA: no work done TC: no work done ----------------------------------------- Scribe list: Plamen Pavlov: 3 Dave Booz: 3 (Last scribed: 2010-11-0 Ashok Malhotra: 21 (Last scribed: 2010-11-15) Anish Karmarkar: 19 (Last scribed: 2010-12-13) Martin Chapman: 21 (Last scribed: 2010-12-20) Bryan Aupperle: 29 (Last scribed: 2011-01-10) Mike Edwards: 25 (Last scribed: 2011-01-31) Please change your name from 'anonymous' using the Settings button Bryan Aupperle: Scribe: Bryan Aupperle Bryan Aupperle: Agenda Change: Update draft of Spring Spec has been distributed so Issue 182 can be discussed. Bryan Aupperle: Also Issue 225 is available for discussion. Bryan Aupperle: Agenda agreed with changes. Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Approval of Minutes Bryan Aupperle: No comments Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Minutes approved. Bryan Aupperle: Topic: TC Administrivia Bryan Aupperle: Discussion of POJO test case and test assertion docs file naming Bryan Aupperle: May need a redirect URL. Bryan Aupperle: Agreement that the current name is not what we want. Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Action Items: Bryan Aupperle: 2010-11-15-02 - Pending Bryan Aupperle: 20101206-01 - Done Bryan Aupperle: 20101206-02 - Pending but real action is to respond original e-mail. Bryan Aupperle: 20110124-02 - Action is done, but not resolved with TC admin Bryan Aupperle: Topic: JAVA-226: TAB comments on POJO CI TAs http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-226 http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/40960/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-test-assertions-1.0-csprd01_Issue226.odt http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/40961/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-test-assertions-1.0-csprd01_Issue226.pdf Bryan Aupperle: Bryan reviews proposal Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Bryan, second Mike, resolve issue 226 with the proposal in the linked document. Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes Bryan Aupperle: Topic: JAVA-182: SCA Spring C & I specs needs to refactor text under abstract and introduction http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182 Bryan Aupperle: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41038/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD05%20Issue182c.doc http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41039/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD05%20Issue182c.pdf Bryan Aupperle: Anish reviews changes anish Dave, you need to go on mute Bryan Aupperle: Editorial things to change: Bryan Aupperle: Copyright dates (footer and Notices) Bryan Aupperle: Format of references to other SCA specs Bryan Aupperle: Dates etc. in footer Bryan Aupperle: Formatting and captions for examples, pseudo-schema etc. Bryan Aupperle: Font size of </beans> in section 2.3.1 Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Mike, second Bryan - Resolve issue 182 with proposal in document 182c. Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o Bryan Aupperle: Topic: JAVA-225 Ambiguity about the implicit reference interface in the introspected component type of a Spring app context http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-225 Bryan Aupperle: Anish reviews issue Bryan Aupperle: Discussion about terminology to use to describe the interface to use in point 2 of the proposal. Bryan Aupperle: Mike: Suggests leaf-most. Bryan Aupperle: Perhaps most specialized Bryan Aupperle: Agree on concept. Need a proposal. Bryan Aupperle: AI (Anish): Prepare a draft proposal for Issue 225. Bryan Aupperle: Topic: AOB
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