Raw text minutes for Java TC call of 28 February 2011

[Mike Edwards <mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com>]

Agenda --
1. Roll call

2. Scribe appointment
Scribe list attached below

3. Agenda bashing

4. Meeting Minutes
Minutes of 2011-02-21 telcon
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41214/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202011-02-21.doc

5. TC Administrivia
a. Recording issue status - 11 open,
1 new

b. Filenames for POJO test case and
test assertion docs

c. New Spring C&I WD
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41260/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD06.doc
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41261/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD06.pdf

d. Issue 217-221
Can we consider these resolved wrt response
to the original filer (Jacques)?

e. Spring C&I testing

6. ACTION ITEMS

20110214-01: (Anish) followup with Robin
wrt version number in filename for POJO test case doc
DONE ... but still PENDING

7. New Issues (requires 2/3)
a. JAVA-229 Spring Extension XSD and
A.1 sca-implementation-spring.xsd usean out-of-date main SCA namespace
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-229

8. Issues with proposals

a. JAVA-227: TAB comments on POJO CI
TCs
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-227
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201101/msg00009.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201102/msg00038.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201102/msg00043.html
Resolution should include a decision
on CN v. CS for POJO TAs

9. Issues waiting for updated proposals
(Spring/EJB/JEE)

a. JAVA-228 Interface of a service when
no element is present
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-228

a. JAVA-217 Weak design: Target is often
not well identified, in several TAs
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-217

b. JAVA-220 Target should not be an
"event", but an identifiable entity
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-220

c. JAVA-221 Stronger use of "tags"
might help classify TAs based on targets
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-221

d. JAVA-225 Ambiguity about the implicit
reference interface in the introspected component type of a Spring app
context
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-225

e. JAVA-109: Property and reference
names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109
Proposal in Jira
Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi)

f. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the
SCA JEE specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174

h. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define
the derivation of the name of a component contributed to the Domain by
an application.composite file
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91
Waiting for updated proposal (Mike)

i. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs
to define how effective CT is calculated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93
Waiting for updated proposal (Anish)

j. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed
for the SCA-JEE Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108
Waiting for updated proposal

k. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive
attribute of the implementation.jee element needs fixing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88
No proposal
Plamen to check whether on his informal
JEE issues list

10. AOB
a. straggler role

11. Spec status

CAA (part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
2 new issue, 2nd PR ended 2010-12-08,
CSD05 expected to be final CSD
1st impl: Tuscany (compliant), 2nd impl:
??
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201012/msg00000.htmlhttp://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201012/msg00000.htmlTA:
CD01 PR ended 2010-10-24, 0 open issue, CSD02 expected to be final CSD
TC: CD01 PR ended 2010-10-24, 0 open
issue, CSD02 expected to be final CSD

POJO (part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
0 open issues, 2st PR ended 2010-12-08,
CSD03 expected to be final CSD
1st impl: Tuscany (compliant), 2nd impl:
??
TA: CSD01 PR ended 2010-12-23
TC: CDS01 PR ended 2010-12-23

EJB Binding (not part of 1st batch of
1.1 specs):
0 open issues, 1st PR done, CSD03 expected
to be final CSD
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ??
TA: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR
needed
TC: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR
needed

Spring C&I (not part of 1st batch
of 1.1 specs):
1 open issues, WD stage, no CSD yet,
60 day PR needed
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ??
TA: no work done
TC: no work done

JEE (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
6 open issues, WD stage (not actively
worked on), no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ??
TA: no work done
TC: no work done

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Scribe list:
Plamen Pavlov: 3
Dave Booz: 3 (Last scribed: 2010-11-0
Anish Karmarkar: 19 (Last scribed: 2010-12-13)
25 (Last scribed: 2011-01-31)
Bryan Aupperle: 30 (Last scribed: 2011-02-07)
Martin Chapman: 22 (Last scribed: 2011-02-14)
Ashok Malhotra: 22 (Last scribed: 2011-02-21)
 
Scribe: Mike Edwards
Item 3 Agenda Bashing
Anish: Mike E has raised a new issue
- we'll add that to the agenda
Anish: Also Robin C sent an email about
file names
Anish: New issue is JAVA-230
Item 4 Minutes
Meeting minutes for 21st Feb are approved
without change
Item 5 TC Administrivia
11 open Issues
2 New Issues
b) Filenames for POJO testcase &
test assertions docs
- response from Robin Cover of OASIS
It is recent and no-one has yet read
and understood all of it.
Debate over the point Robin makes about
the problem of redirects
<Long discussion of the content of
Robin's email>
Anish: Can Martin you provide the email
of the OASIS TAB for us to comment on this naming confusion
anish: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=tab
anish: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=tab
anish: tab-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
Anish: Issue #1 is the filename to use
for the mangled documents
Anish: Issue #2 is the problem with
the proliferation of filenames
ACTION 20110228-01: Mike E - send email
to TAB list raising the issue of the proliferation of filenames in the
new process.
ACTION 20110228-02: Anish to summarize
the approach that we want to use for the new filenames - send an email
to the TC list
c) New Spring C&I WD
- WD06 is available with a group of
resolved issues
d) Issues 217 - 221
Mike's reply to Jacques:
anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201102/msg00025.html
Mike: I think that Jacques is basically
OK with our position on all these issues.
Bryan: We can now close all those issues,
I think
Mike E moves to close issues 217, 220,
221 with no action (based on Jacques response)
Bryan seconds
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 217 is closed
Issue 220 is closed
Issue 221 is closed
e) Spring C&I testing
Ant Elder is working on a test suite
for the Spring C&I
Item 6 Action Items
20110214-01: (Anish) followup with Robin
wrt version number in filename for POJO test case doc 
DONE
Item 7 New Issues
JAVA-229 Spring Extension XSD and A.1
sca-implementation-spring.xsd usean out-of-date main SCA namespace 
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-229
Mike explains the issue
Mike moves to open Issue 29
Bryan seconds
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 229 is open
Mike explains the proposal
Anish adds the proposal that the schemaLocation
attribute occurs in both the sca-implementation-spring.xsd  and also
in the sca-spring-extension.xsd
...there is an include in sca-implementation-spring.xsd
<include schemaLocation="sca-core-1.1-cd06.xsd"/>
Mike moves to resolve JAVA-229 with
the proposal in JIRA plus the additional change of the <include/>
element to <include schemaLocation="sca-core-1.1-cd06.xsd"/>
in sca-implementation-spring.xsd
Bryan seconds
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 229 is resolved
JAVA-230: implementation.spring @location
attribute does not state theform which its URI value can take
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-230
Mike E explains the issue, which concerns
@location of <implementation.spring/>
Mike moves to open Issue 230
Bryan seconds
Motion passes unanimously
Issue 230 is open

Item 8 Issues with Proposals
JAVA-227: TAB comments on POJO CI TCs

http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-227

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201101/msg00009.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201102/msg00038.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201102/msg00043.html

Resolution should include a decision
on CN v. CS for POJO TAs
anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201102/msg00043.html
Anish discusses the issue and the email
discussion
Bryan has pointed out that no tests
are optional in the current test suite
so the word "applicable" can
be removed
Anish: There are 2 parts here.  One
for the Testcases document, one for the main POJO Spec dcoument
Mike: Should really have 2 separate
issues for the changes to each separate document
Anish: OK, just have this issue deal
with the Testcases document & raise another issue for the other one
ACTION 20110229-02: Anish - raise a
new issue against the POJO C&I spec for conformance changes
Anish: there is also the question as
to where the reference to the ZIP file of the testcases should go
MartinC time
Bryan: Prefer it to be in the "related
work" - since it is not independent of the spec document - and in
the case of the CAA spec, the APIs (etc) are treated as related work in
that specification.  Could still say that the ZIP materials take precendence
over the content of the spec docuemnt (as for XSDs etc)
Anish: I'll prepare an updated proposal
for 227 which addresses all these topics



Yours, Mike

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