Raw minutes for 23 May

[11:02] anish: Agenda --

[11:02] anish: 1. Roll call

2. Scribe appointment
Scribe list attached below

3. Agenda bashing

4. Meeting Minutes
Minutes of 2011-05-16 telcon:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201105/msg00034.html

5. TC Administrivia
a. Recording issue status - 8 open, 0 new

6. ACTION ITEMS
2011-05-09-2: Mike to fix editorial problems with the TC document & make proposal for Issue 238

2011-05-16-1: MikeE to investigate the test/JAX-WS issue and find out how difficult/easy it is to run tests with SE5

2011-05-16-2: Anish to post his analysis of CAA spec untested items

7. Planning for PR of various specs
a) CAA spec: apply issue 233
b) CAA TA: apply issue 235, apply issue 232
c) CAA TC: apply issues 215? & 234
d) POJO spec: apply issue 231
e) POJO TA: apply issue 236
f) POJO TC: apply issue 222, ref udpate(?)
g) Spring: DONE
h) Spring TC: WD01 ready, need edits to remove JMS-isms + issue 238

8. CSD01 approval
a) What should be the filename? sca-springci-v1.1-WD10 OR ca-springci-spec-v1.1-WD10 ?

b) New WD10 available
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/42243/sca-springci-v1.1-WD10.zip

c) What should the subdirectory be named?
sca-j/springci OR sca-j/springci-spec OR opencsa/sca-j/springci OR opencsa/sca-j/springci-spec ?

9. New Issues (requires 2/3)
NONE

10. Issues with proposals
NONE

11. Issues waiting for updated proposals (Spring/EJB/JEE)
a. Issue 238 TA and TC needed for SPR30005
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-238
Awating proposal from Mike

b. Issue 239 JCI90003 -- Java SE 5 requirement should be on the runtime not on the class
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-239
Consensus is to allow versions higher than 5. What is the minimum? 5 or 6? How easy is it to run our tests with version 5? Awating action from Mike.

c. JAVA-109: Property and reference names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109
Proposal in Jira
Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi)

d. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the SCA JEE specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174

e. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define the derivation of the name of a component contributed to the Domain by an application.composite file
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91
Waiting for updated proposal (Mike)

f. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs to define how effective CT is calculated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93
Waiting for updated proposal (Anish)

g. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed for the SCA-JEE Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108
Waiting for updated proposal

h. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive attribute of the implementation.jee element needs fixing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88
No proposal
Plamen to check whether on his informal JEE issues list

12. AOB
a. straggler role

13. Spec status

CAA (part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
2 new issue, 2nd PR ended 2010-12-08, CSD05 expected to be final CSD
1st impl: Tuscany (compliant), 2nd impl: ??
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201012/msg00000.htmlhttp://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201012/msg00000.htmlTA: CD01 PR ended 2010-10-24, 0 open issue, CSD02 expected to be final CSD
TC: CD01 PR ended 2010-10-24, 0 open issue, CSD02 expected to be final CSD

POJO (part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
0 open issues, 2st PR ended 2010-12-08, CSD03 expected to be final CSD
1st impl: Tuscany (compliant), 2nd impl: ??
TA: CSD01 PR ended 2010-12-23
TC: CDS01 PR ended 2010-12-23

EJB Binding (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
0 open issues, 1st PR done, CSD03 expected to be final CSD
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ??
TA: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed
TC: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed

Spring C&I (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
1st CSD undergoing 30 day PR
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ??
TA/TC: WD01 available

JEE (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
6 open issues, WD stage (not actively worked on), no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ??
TA: no work done
TC: no work done

[11:04] Mike Edwards: Greetings

[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: Scribe: Bryan Aupperle

[11:07] anish: Date: 2011-05-23

[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: 4 of 6 present (66%)

[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Agenda bashing

[11:09] Bryan Aupperle: Agenda agreed

[11:09] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Approval of Minutes

[11:09] Bryan Aupperle: No comments

[11:09] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Minutes approved

[11:09] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Action Items

[11:10] Bryan Aupperle: 2011-05-09-2: Pending

[11:11] Dave Booz just joined to make sure you get quorate - will be paying attention in about 15 mins

[11:11] Bryan Aupperle: 2011-05-16-1: This is possible, but it takes some work to get the correct JAX-WS jars.  Tuscany used to do so.

[11:12] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: It is more of a test client issue than the runtime itself.

[11:13] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: And the test cases themselves are not dependent on JAX-WS.

[11:13] Bryan Aupperle: So this AI is done.

[11:14] anish: 2011-05-09-2: Mike to fix editorial problems with the TC document & make proposal for Issue 238

[11:14] Bryan Aupperle: 2011-05-16-2: done

[11:15] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Spring CI CSD 01

[11:15] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: TC Admin notes some items we have address

[11:18] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: TC-Admin now prefers a zip with all files that are part of the approved package (schema, APIs, etc.)

[11:20] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: mismatch between schema file name and the name in the appendix.

[11:20] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: we also need the Assembly TC to approve hosting the file containing implementation.spring

[11:22] anish: sca-springci-v1.1-WD10 OR ca-springci-spec-v1.1-WD10

[11:22] Mike Edwards: OASIS site is not working

[11:22] Mike Edwards: can't get the ZIP

[11:26] Bryan Aupperle: Bryan: We will need to distinguish the spec from the test cases and the extension is not sufficient.

[11:27] Bryan Aupperle: Bryan:  My preference is to include "spec" for consistency with and to be clear what each document is.

[11:27] Bryan Aupperle: Consensus: include "spec" in the file name

[11:27] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: The zip files does not do this, bur we can handle that in the motion.

[11:34] Bryan Aupperle: Bryan: The main SCA namespace is not linked in front matter

[11:36] Bryan Aupperle: AI (Bryan) raise issue regarding lack of sca namespace link in the spring CI front matter.

[11:48] Mike Edwards: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

[11:50] MartinC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13507728

[12:01] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Mike, second Dave - Accept WD11.zip as CSD01 and submit it for a 30 public review.

[12:02] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: AOB

[12:02] Bryan Aupperle: Straggler role

[12:04] Bryan Aupperle: Schema files need to be updated in SVN

[12:05] Bryan Aupperle: Meeting adjourned

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