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Subject: SCA-Policy 2007-10-22 Minutes - Raw CR Text


Please find the raw text from the Chat Room attached.

I do not have access to Schreiber, but Bob Freund may be able to format this
and post to the list.

Best Regards,
              Eric.

Eric Wells.
Consulting Engineer.
Hitachi Computer Products (America) Inc.
(415) 656-4346
eric.wells@hitachisoftware.com
 
anonymous morphed into Kaanu Joshi

anonymous morphed into Pundalik Kudapkar

Eric Wells: scribe: Eric Wells

Ashok Malhotra: Thanks, Eric!

Eric Wells: date:2007-10-22

Eric Wells: agenda: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-policy/event.php?event_id=16116&day=1193047200

Eric Wells: topic: Roll Call

Eric Wells: Taken by Ashok Malhotra

Eric Wells: 51% Quorate

Eric Wells: Regrets from several members

Eric Wells: Martin C: Regreds polite but of no standing in OASIS - Need LOA

Eric Wells: ... One LOA allowed automatically - any more request from Chair(s) prior to meeting

Eric Wells: ... Anyone on LOA cannot (officially) participate in meetings

Eric Wells: ... If participation then automattically off LOA

Eric Wells: Topic: Assignement of Scribe

Eric Wells: topic:Agenda Bashing

Eric Wells: No Additional items

Eric Wells: topic: Minutes

Eric Wells: Ashok M: Had some problems downloading minutes for 2007-10-15

Eric Wells: Mike R: Some issues with URL's - posted to chatroom

Michael Rowley: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-policy/download.php/25728/SCA%20Policy%20minutes%202007-10-15.pdf

Eric Wells: Adopt Minutes of 2007-10-15 as posted

Eric Wells: M:Mike R S:Martin C

Eric Wells: Approved w/o objection

Eric Wells: Resolution: Adopted Minutes of 2007-10-15 as posted

Eric Wells: topic: OpenCSA Liaison committee 

Eric Wells: Need someone from SCA-Policy to serve on OpenCSA Liaison committee 

Eric Wells: Martin C: Makes most sense Chairs serve

Eric Wells: Ashok M: Do we need both?

Eric Wells: Martin C: At least one - but wouldn't hurt for both

Eric Wells: E-mail message - http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-policy/email/archives/200710/msg00052.html

Sanjay: Publicly accessible URL for the above email - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-ms/200710/msg00033.html

Eric Wells: Martin C: Motion to nominate both SCA-Policy Chairs to OpenCSA Liaison committee

Eric Wells: M: Martin C - S: Mike B

Eric Wells: No objections - motion carried

Eric Wells: resolution: SCA-Policy Chairs Nominated to OpenCSA Liaison committee

Eric Wells: topic: Issues

Eric Wells: 5a. What should the namespace of the new version of the spec be? http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-5 

Eric Wells: Some question of missing attachement, but reposted

Sanjay: Attachment is right

Eric Wells: Sanjay: Three parts to proposal

Eric Wells: ...Part 1 - specific namespace

Eric Wells: ...Part 2 Allows TC's to add addtl namespace

Eric Wells: ...Part 3 - Namespace document also in namespace URI

Eric Wells: Ashok M: Mail from Mary McRea - TC's don't have authority to decide - up to OASIS

Eric Wells: Martin C: Does this TC want to use generic, specific, other namespace?

Eric Wells: Sanjay: Probably too early to make decision - but could adopt proposal

Eric Wells: ...then communicate that to  OASIS

Eric Wells: Martin C: Is that is what is bein recommended?

Eric Wells: Ashok M: Mary sent mail this morning

Eric Wells: Sanjay: Posted Mary's message to CR.

Sanjay: To TC Chairs:

   Please note that namespaces must be approved by the TC Administrator  while the Steering Committee has agreed to the proposal, OASIS has not yet made a final determination to approve or disapprove the proposal. See footnote [1] in Sanjays proposal, below.

   Regards,

   Mary

Eric Wells: Mike R: Get recommendation from Liaison committee?

Eric Wells: Martin C: Going round in circle - has gone from TC's to OpenCSA Steering to OASIS now back at TC's.

Eric Wells: Mike R: Hardest question avoided:

Sanjay: Eric, the speaker is Mike R (not Mike B)

Eric Wells: Corrected speaker.

Eric Wells: ...Does everything share same NS or do some things need separaate NS?

Eric Wells: ... individual TC's can't make these decisions

Eric Wells: Ashok M: Also issues regarding version numbers

Michael Rowley: s/can't/shouln't, without coordination,/

Eric Wells: Sanjay: This TC doesn't need separate NS at present

Eric Wells: According to Mary's E-mail it IS can't - but accademic really

Eric Wells: Martin C: There are two separate issues - need to separate

Eric Wells: ... adopting general guidelines and specific decision on NS

Martin C: Motion to approce the approach detailed in the Namespace URI Design and Dereferencing document and further that until we receive further evidence we will use the common namespace and not a sca policy specific one

Martin C: s/approce/aprove

Martin C: s/aprove/approve

Eric Wells: M: Martin C  S: Sanjay

Eric Wells: No further discussion - No dissent - Motion passes

Eric Wells: resolution: Approve approach detailed in the Namespace URI Design and Dereferencing document

Eric Wells: 5b. Required intents on interfaces  Michael Rowley 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-policy/email/archives/200710/msg00018.html 

Eric Wells: Mike R: Summarizes issue

Sanjay: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-7

Eric Wells: This is issue POLICY-7

Eric Wells: After discussion decided to wait until more specific wording

Eric Wells: action: owner=MikeR due=2007-10-29 Send E-mail to list with specific wording

Eric Wells: Topic: New Issues

Eric Wells: 6a. Add conversational intent to Policy Framework 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200710/msg00025.html 

Kaanu Joshi: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-8

Eric Wells: Motion: Accept issue POLICY-8

Eric Wells: M: Mike R  S: Martin C

Eric Wells: No objections

Eric Wells: resolution: issue=POLICY-8 Accepted with as new issue w/o objections

Eric Wells: Motion to close POLICY-8 with wording in issue

Eric Wells: Martin C: No definition - need more to be more specific

Eric Wells: Motion fails - no second

Eric Wells: action owner=MikeR due=2007-10-22 Send new E-mail with specifc resolution to POLICY-8

Sanjay: Move to accept new issues (6.b,..,6.i)

Sanjay: S: Mike R

Eric Wells: Seconded: Mike R

Eric Wells: Martin C: Don't like forcing new issues but won't object due to time.

Eric Wells: No objections - New issues accepted

Eric Wells: resolution: Agenda items 6b through 6i accepted as new items

Eric Wells: Iusse numbers for agenda items:

Eric Wells: Item 6b - POLICY-13

Eric Wells: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200710/msg00046.html

Eric Wells: Item 6c - POLICY-10

Eric Wells: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200710/msg00043.html 

Eric Wells: Item 6d - POLICY-9

Eric Wells: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200710/msg00042.html 

Eric Wells: Item 6e - POLICY-11

Eric Wells: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200710/msg00044.html 

Eric Wells: Item 6f - POLICY-12

Eric Wells: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200710/msg00045.html 

Eric Wells: Item 6g - POLICY-14

Eric Wells: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200710/msg00047.html

Eric Wells: Item 6h - POLICY-15

Eric Wells: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200710/msg00048.html 

Eric Wells: N.B. The following have duplicate agenda item numbers

Eric Wells: Item 6g - POLICY-16

Eric Wells: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200710/msg00049.html 

Eric Wells: Item 6h - POLICY-17

Eric Wells: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200710/msg00050.html 

Eric Wells: Item 6i - POLICY-18

Eric Wells: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200710/msg00051.html 

Eric Wells: Meeting adjurned 10:01AM Pacific.


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