Minutes
Opening
Roll - 10/14 = 71% Quorate
Resolution: Minute of 2010-02-01 accepted w/o
ActionItems
As listed in agenda - no updates
20100104-01: owner=editors status=pending Fix the name of the file in Appendix B1 to match the actual name of the file.
New Items
Open Items
Comments numbers refer to E-mails above.
Dave B:
Comment 1 remove Ashoks changes
Dave B:
Comment 2 - changes in Appendix
...don't like this as there's normative statements included and don't like this style
...didn't understand Ashoks proposal on how to handle this
Ashok M:
Used for both intent and policySet so doesn't belong in one section specifically
...thought it would be better taken out of general flow of document
Dave B:
That's what I didn't like!
...but understand the argument
...However need infoset to understand XPath stuff so would prefer it closely before that section.
Leave as appendix and see how that fits with rest of changed document - same as Ashoks proposal
Dave B:
How to deal with normative statement?
Ashok M:
pull out of appendix and put inline with text
...On section 4.3 - formatting correction
<Ashok>
Move normative statement in Appendix to section 4.7
Agreed that there should be 3 (three) normative statements - fix as required
Attach intents before policySets
Ashok M:
Normative statement - put in both places where it applies.
Dave B:
issues also come up in later comments - suggest considering with those
Dave B:
What happens when deploying new intents? Do we have to re-evaluate intents/policySet that are already deployed?
...what happens if the new intent causes and error (existing is already running)?
Ashok M:
Convinced about these issues - agrees that we will need a new section on deployment
Ashok will create a new section on deployment to deal with Comments 4, 8, 9
<Ashok>
This will go close to the Algorithm
Ashok will move 4.6.2 to appendix
Add text to disallow use of intent XPath in attchTo
...New normative statement added
...compared with algorithm for resolving intents implies opposite functionality
Dave B:
suggest removing new normative statement
Ashok will review and remove if contracdictory
...what happens if a newly deplyed intent is not satisfied?
...that should be an error, but would previously be detected at deployment - NOW could be at runtime
...that makes things really difficult
...Can we say that when an intent is deployed thate must also be a policySet that satisfies the intent?
Ashok M:
Agree but need to think about this further
Ashok will add consideration of runtime to new section on deployment
<Ashok>
Impact on running instances and deployed composites
No further discussion on POLICY-93
POLICY-116 - Simplify policySet model?
Ashok M:
Reviews his proposal
...people like the idea, but think its too much work
Eric W:
Like the proposal but think it should be in next rev
Motion: m=Ashok s=EricW Defer further consideration of POLICY-116 until Policy Framework 1.2
No further discussion, no objections
Resolution: Defer further consideration of POLICY-116 until Policy Framework 1.2
AOB
Straggler role - none heard
Meeting adjourned 09:53 PST
<Dave Booz>
thx for scribing today Eric, I really appreciate it
N.P. What do you want to do about formatting and adding the role?
<Ashok>
I'll take care of the roll, Eric
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