Hi Brent,
Can you please change my status from “Observer”
to “Member”.
Thank you.
Frank Heine.
From: Brent
Miller [mailto:bamiller@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006
7:11 PM
To: Robsahm, Chris
Subject: Fw: SI committee meeting
Chris,
It
occurred to me that you hadn't see the agenda for the in-person meeting and
that we ought to set appropriate expectations for everyone.
As
you know, the SDD TC has been working on deliverables, the major one being the
specificaition, for quite some time and I think we've made good progress. The
meeting in
Hence,
you might want to familiarize yourselves with the specification, past meeting
minutes, and other documents on the SDD TC Web site.
I
know that sending 4 people to this meeting is a significant investment for SAP,
and so I just wanted to make sure you had a sense for the meeting agenda. We
will be discussing the detailed meeting agenda during next Wednesday's
conference call.
If
you have any questions, please let me know. If you think it would be beneficial
to have a telephone conversation, also let me know; I'd be happy to do that.
Thanks.
Regards,
Brent
Brent A. Miller
STSM, Autonomic Computing Architecture
IBM Corp.
Tel. 919-543-6959 (TIE 441)
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in
practice, there is."
-- Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut
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Miller/Raleigh/IBM on 09/28/2006 12:59 PM -----
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Brent Miller/Raleigh/IBM
09/28/2006 08:21 AM |
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Chris,
That's
great!
The
meeting will be held at the IBM facility at
There
are several hotels within walking distance (hotels in
Please
ensure that all of the SAP participants are registered on the SDD TC roster
with their appropriate status; please let me know if I can assist in doing
that.
We
hope that you can join our TC conference call next Wednesday, 10:00 a.m.
We
look forward to your participation and to meeting all of you.
Thanks.
Regards,
Brent
Brent A. Miller
STSM, Autonomic Computing Architecture
IBM Corp.
Tel. 919-543-6959 (TIE 441)
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in
practice, there is."
-- Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut
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"Robsahm, Chris"
<chris.robsahm@sap.com> 09/28/2006 07:58 AM |
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It looks like we will be able to make it to the
face to face meeting. There will be 4 members going, these will be the
active members from SAP moving forward..
Thomas Brodkorp - Development Architect
Thomas Klink - Development Architect
Frank Heine - Senior Developer
Chris Robsahm - Development Architect.
Can you please send us information as to where to stay, etc?
Thank you,
Chris
From: Brent
Miller [mailto:bamiller@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 4:06 PM
To: David Cole
Cc: Catherine Pleil; Charlie Halloran Jr; Robsahm, Chris; Julia
McCarthy; Randy George; Christine Draper
Subject: Re: Fw: SI committee meeting
Chris,
This is wonderful news! We welcome SAP's participation in the SDD TC.
First, let me introduce myself. I am the current chair of the SDD TC, replacing
Tom Studwell, who retired from IBM.
Logistically, you should determine who will participate in the TC and at what
level. As noted in this e-mail correspondence, there are "Observer"
and "Member" levels (along with a few others that aren't really
relevant here). To be a "Voting Member", one must first be a
"Member" and then attend at least two consecutive meetings of the TC
(which includes our weekly conference calls). Once one becomes a "Voting
Member", one remains a "Voting Member" unless one misses two
consecutive meetings of the TC (in which case voting rights are restored after
attending two consecutive meetings). By convention, the TC has agreed that no
single company will have more than 4 voting members.
Although it might be a short runway, your timing is excellent: we have a
planned in-person meeting in New York City October 9-13, and there are two
scheduled TC calls before that meeting (tomorrow, September 27 and next
Wednesday, October 4, both at 10:00 a.m. US Eastern time -- details are on the
SDD TC Web page in "Calendar"). Members would be welcome to attend
the face-to-face meeting, and if it is possible and you so choose, you could
obtain voting rights before that meeting by attending the next two conference
calls. I realize that's not a lot of notice, but it is possible. You still
could attend the in-person meeting, of course, even if you haven't yet
established voting member privilieges.
So, the next steps are to enroll the SAP participants in the TC (I see that you
already are a member...I also can change Mr. Heine's and Mr. Kilian's status
from "Observer" to "Member" if they will send me an e-mail
requesting it. You also can enroll others as Observers or Members (again, with
the caveat that the TC has agreed to a maximum of 4 voting members per
company). Then, if possible, have one or more SAP representatives attend
tomorrow's and/or next Wednesday's conference call. Finally, attend the
in-person meeting Oct. 9 - 13 if you like.
I hope this helps. Please don't hesitate to contact me if you encouter any
problems or issues with the TC logistics or Web page.
Thanks, and we look forward to SAP's participation in the SDD TC.
Regards,
Brent
Brent A. Miller
STSM, Autonomic Computing Architecture
IBM Corp.
Tel. 919-543-6959 (TIE 441)
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in
practice, there is."
-- Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut
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David Cole/Raleigh/IBM 09/26/2006 09:43 AM |
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Brent,
Can you answer Chris' question?
Thanks,
David
Chris - wonderful news!
David L. Cole
Autonomic Computing Business Partner & Customer Programs
Relationship Manager to Macrovision Corp (formerly InstallShield)
Dept EUCA, Bldg 500/D145,
919- 254-4113, t/l 444-4113
Notes: David Cole/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
email: deecole@us.ibm.com
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"Robsahm, Chris"
<chris.robsahm@sap.com> 09/26/2006 03:09 AM |
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All we now have official approval from the board to participate in the
standards process. Can someone guide me into the next steps?
Thanks,
Chris
From: Thomas Studwell
[mailto:studwell@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:02 AM
To: Robsahm, Chris
Cc: Charlie Halloran Jr; Randy George
Subject: RE: Fw: SI committee meeting
Chris,
this technical committee does not do any Open Source so Open Source should not
be an issue. As long as your contribution is limited to comments on the
proposed specification then the only IP (Intellectual Property) you would be
contributing would be your expertise in installation requirements of your
company.
Perhaps their concern is "Open Standards" but SAP is a founding
member of OASIS so that should not be a concern.
To answer your question, there is no 'informal' way to participate other than
as 'Observer' in which you are only able to listen, you can not contribute. The
TC probably would not adjust their call-in hours to accommodate 'Observers'.
Thomas W. Studwell
Senior Technical Staff Member, Autonomic Computing Architecture
IBM Software Group
B140/Bldg 500
(919) 254-7574 Fax: (919) 254-7628
studwell@us.ibm.com
"There is a word for complaining about a problem without proposing a
solution - it's called whining." Ric Telford 2006
"Robsahm,
Chris" <chris.robsahm@sap.com>
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"Robsahm, Chris"
<chris.robsahm@sap.com> 05/30/2006
03:59 PM |
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Sounds great....
There has been a hitch on our side... It turns out all open source committee
participation needs to be board approved, god only knows why, we are taking
this to the board in July.
Is there anyway for us to informally participate until then?
Did any of our issues get raised at the committee meeting?
Thanks,
Chris
From: Thomas Studwell [mailto:studwell@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 21:39 PM
To: Robsahm, Chris
Cc: Charlie Halloran Jr; Randy George
Subject: RE: Fw: SI committee meeting
Chris,
I wanted to let you know that the SDD TC is voting to change their
teleconference time. While the ballot doesn't close until tomorrow afternoon,
the current selection calls for teleconferences at Wednesday, 10AM ET, 11PM
JT, 7AM PT, 3PM UK
(4PM SAP time ;-)
Hopefully this helps you participate on the calls.
Please let me know your membership plans.
Thomas W. Studwell
Senior Technical Staff Member, Autonomic Computing Architecture
IBM Software Group
B140/Bldg 500
(919) 254-7574 Fax: (919) 254-7628
studwell@us.ibm.com
"There is a word for complaining about a problem without proposing a
solution - it's called whining." Ric Telford 2006
"Robsahm, Chris"
<chris.robsahm@sap.com>
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"Robsahm, Chris"
<chris.robsahm@sap.com> 05/09/2006
02:37 AM |
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I have signed up as a contributor and I will have the others change their
status. The problem is that the approval process takes a long time here. We are
in the final phase where our IP lawyers need to give their final approval.
From: Thomas Studwell
[mailto:studwell@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 14:43 PM
To: Charlie Halloran Jr
Cc: Robsahm, Chris; Randy George
Subject: Re: Fw: SI committee meeting
Chris,
so far only two people from SAP have signed up for the SDD TC, Frank Heine and
Frank Kilian. In both cases they signed up as "Observer", which means
that they can listen to the meetings and will receive mail from the reflector
but they can not contribute to the TC. You must be a full Member to be able to
contribute to the meeting.
If they remain an "Observer" there isn't much point to attending the
face to face meeting since they will not be able to contribute.
If they change to member status before the SDD Face to Face meeting then the
face to face meeting will be valuable experience but it is very short notice
for anyone to attend and it may be hard to justify at this late date.
It may be that the best value would come if the SAP members to reply via email
in support of Randy George's recent submission to the TC (I will forward that
email to you separately). SAP will have a lot of influence with the committee
and your support would be very powerful and help speed up agreement within the
TC. I can work with you on the mechanics of such a response.
The first step, however, will be to get your current participants to be
members. I can change their roles to "Member" if they each send an
email to sdd-chair@lists.oasis-open.org requesting that I change their role to
Member.
Thomas W. Studwell
Senior Technical Staff Member, Autonomic Computing Architecture
IBM Software Group
B140/Bldg 500
(919) 254-7574 Fax: (919) 254-7628
studwell@us.ibm.com
"There is a word for complaining about a problem without proposing a
solution - it's called whining." Ric Telford 2006
Charlie Halloran Jr/Cary/IBM
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Charlie Halloran Jr/Cary/IBM 05/08/2006
12:24 AM |
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Tom,
This is your call..
Thanks,
Charlie
Charlie Halloran Jr cwh@us.ibm.com
Autonomic Computing 8-441-0397 (919)543-0397
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"Robsahm, Chris"
<chris.robsahm@sap.com> 05/05/2006
02:55 AM |
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Charlie - Unfortunately we have some scheduling conflict during the time the
face to face meeting is taking place. This is the week that a Macrovision
consultant is coming to SAP for IA training and to help convert our current
ISMP install to IA. This is a very important project for SAP and I can not miss
it. I think we have two options.
1)
We can meet with you and key members afterwards, perhaps in June.
2)
I could try to get one of the members Frank Heine to attend, however I would
only entertain this option if you think it is critical that we attend in
person.
Please
let me know your thoughts,
Thanks.
Chris