Re: [sdd] Groups - SDD Specification Draft (SDD Specification Draft.doc) uploaded

[Julia McCarthy <julia@us.ibm.com>]

I was working with that assumption also - until about a week ago. Now I'm hearing that the xsd is a preferred implementation but not part of the specification. The distinctions seem subtle and the implications for our work unclear but probably minor. I bet a short conversation in the next meeting could clear this up.

Julia McCarthy
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James Falkner <james.falkner@sun.com>

James Falkner <james.falkner@sun.com>

06/08/2006 12:05 PM

To	"Danielson, Debra J" <Debra.Danielson@ca.com>
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Subject	Re: [sdd] Groups - SDD Specification Draft (SDD Specification Draft.doc) uploaded

Did I hear that right?  The XSD (XML Schema) is not part of the SDD
specification?  I understand why graphics can't be part of the normative
part of the spec (after all, it's duplicative) but the XSD is not
part of it either?  I thought it was the ultimate and primary
output of the TC...

-jhf-

Danielson, Debra J wrote:
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> This is the reason I wanted to use the graph pictures from the xsd
> editor. They clearly show choices and sequences - things you can't show
> well with just xml. Randy and Tom tell me the xsd is not part of the
> specification so type graph pictures can't be normative. They could be
> included in non-normative sections and then referred to in normative
> sections - that's what they do in the SPML2 specification which is being
> held up as a model. That seems awkward so I just punted in this first
> section and only used the xml editor graphics.
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> I'd like to discuss this with the TC.
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> (Did you mean to reply to only me? Shall we move this discussion back to
> the whole group?)
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> I think that some convention to illustrate that would be useful. I just
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> Under optional information there is a section on the Version and the Fix
> elements, but that isn't represented in the schema above - which is
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> When you say "the schema above" I think you must mean the graphic of the
> xml in the xml design editor. There is a choice between version and fix.
> You can't have both in the same xml file so a graphic of xml (as opposed
> to xsd) has to pick one or the other. I suppose I could put side by side
> graphics showing each of the choices. Do you think that would be better?
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> My comments on this section (excluding the items still open from the
> previous review). I will not be able to attend the call tomorrow am, as
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> Section 2
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> Informational question? What's the value of the size attribute?
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> Section 2.1
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> Re: The length of the shortDescription is not restricted, should it be?
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> We do not have explicit limits for tool tip information in CA,
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> Under optional information there is a section on the Version and the Fix
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> Section 2.3
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> Is this directly from the ACS specification?
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> Section 2.4
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