| Hi Jan
No - that makes sense!!
But if I am searching for the journal then I want' to search enumeration and chronology to make sure you hold the issue you want, or am I missing something really basic here?
sorry to be dull
Kerry
On 18/09/2007, at 8:58 AM, Janifer Gatenby wrote: Thanks Kerry, I can't think of a reasonable example A search is usually for a specific article, therefore a specific issue. The bibliographic part of the search would include the enumeration and chronology. This wouldn't be part of the holdings attributes of the search. Unlikely example: "journal of anatomy where the holdings are incomplete" ? "journal of anatomy where the holdings are complete"? Can you think of a likely one? Janifer
Thanks Jan
That is so eloquently what I meant when I said it is our problem!
Why don't you think you would want to search extent of holdings?
Kerry
On 17/09/2007, at 9:10 PM, Janifer Gatenby wrote: Dear Colleagues, I'm sorry that I wasn't on line when these discussions happened. I think that Ray mentioned that I am working on a holdings context set to match the ISO holdings schema. I'm going to start with the holdings attrubute set that I did with Pieter van Lierop in 2000 and cut it back to only those search attributes for which we can find use cases. http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/holdattr.html I'm leaving aside the debate about whether or not link resolvers can do the job. I think this is a red herring - some software, OPAC, Resolver or otherwise has to send a query to the ILS database that contains holdings item records and their current status and usage history. In a bibliographic sense we distinguish between known item (really "known resource") queries and subject queries (no known resource). Subject queries could have holdings search attributes, e.g. "search for dinosaurs where copies are available at my branch library". More likely holdings attributes are attached to known resource queries. "Do you have any copies of this resource available" or "does your x branch have an available copy of this resource". It really is an awful solution to send a query to discover all the item identifiers of a resource or group of resources, then to send multiple NCIP transactions to discover availability. The attribute set above contains a lot of detail about enumeration and chronology - all of which is actually at the resource level not the holdings level. It also contains attributes that I don't think would be used for seaching such as extent of holdings. I think that the searchable holdings attributes would be - identifier, location and availability. Does anybody want to add any more? Janifer
Ray
When it comes to searching holdings Matthew talked about one scenario where a search result returns 400 holdings and you then want to find which of those holdings are from particular places - eg the Bodlian and the British Library. This to me is needs a Search service.
How do you feel about Ashley's suggestion that that be a client side problem?
I should have said the reason I think this is our problem is I might want to apply this criteria in the initial search rather than after the result is retrieved (:-) Sorry to be flippant. its late in the day and that is a dangerous time for the Australian sense of humour!
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