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Subject: Re: notes from F2F on conformance
FWIW, here are the potential "levels"/"layers" of conformance that I heard mentioned at the F2F (I hope to compile the minutes and publish them soon, which should help matters!): Idea #1 for layering: A software component might serve as only one of our types of authorities (e.g., a PDP), and it might be said to conform as a "SAML PDP" because it accepts certain things as input and produces certain things as output. We wouldn't want to force every SAML-using system into supplying all the types of system entities. Idea #2 for layering (as you mention below): As long as the type(s) of binding supported are documented/declared, an implementation could be said to be compliant with that SAML binding. There was also talk of designating one or more "must-have" bindings, to increase interoperability. Idea #3 for layering (I think this came from Dave Orchard): There might be some sense in which software could conform to our assertions (e.g., use just that inner schema without higher XML or binding-related structures), without needing to conform to "higher" layers of our spec. Perhaps he can elaborate here (I've copied him because I'm not sure if he's on this list). I think it's pretty clear that people want as few conformance types as is practicable, but of course that's somewhat subjective... Eve At 12:56 PM 4/27/01 -0400, Robert Griffin wrote: >hi - > >i've attached below the presentation i did on conformance at the F2F. >There were a couple of issues that came up during the presentation, or at >other times during the F2F: > >- The most important issue was whether binary compliance/no-compliance was >sufficient. The general consensus (in contrast to what Krishna and i >suggested in the presentation) was that there needed to be levels or areas >of compliance. For example, an implementation that supported the HTTP >binding but not the BEEP binding should still be considered compliant with >regard to that binding. Similarly, an implementation that consumed >assertions but did not produce them could also be considered compliant >within its particular area of implementation. > >- There was also considerable interest in having at least a strawman for >conformance criteria available by next F2F in early June. Several SAML >members are already looking at starting reference implementations (or have >already begun them, based on earlier submissions to SAML), so we need to >start working out the approach to and scope of conformance. > >- The question of any OASIS requirements was raised; the only one noted >was the expectation of having 3 reference implementations in place before >the standard is submitted for a vote (target September). > >In the presentation, we had identified 3 major areas of work for the >subgroup: 1) reviewing the spec for conformance issues etc; 2) writing the >conformance part of the spec; 3) working with implementers, including >building/coordinating a test harness for compliance. Given the comments in >the F2F, i think it's time to start on the second area? Here's a couple of >next steps: > >- Get comparable conformance information for other Oasis standards >- Sub-group brainstorming on compliance levels, etc >- Draft a strawman conformance section for the spec, including things like >compliance levels, criteria for each level, process for demonstrating >compliance. > >Unless someone else is interested, i'm happy to spend some time next week >gathering together conformance stuff from other standards. Krishna, should >we try for a sub-group concall sometime like the week after next (that is, >week of 7-May)? > >regards, > >bob -- Eve Maler +1 781 442 3190 Sun Microsystems XML Technology Development eve.maler @ east.sun.com
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