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Subject: Re: composition of Issuer identifier (also: "dns-date" URN NID)
Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > [...] > 2) Where issuer IDs are concerned the 'issuer' is clearly not 'downloadable' > but there might well be a need at some point to support some form of service > that was resolved in some fashion from the Issuer ID. > > Here DNS names make a lot of sense since it is possible to map from a DNS > name to a service of any type using an SRV record. Agreed. > 3) The DNS-DATE URN scheme has come up many times in many forms. The > earliest one in actual use being the Presidential Document Identifiers used > by the Whiethouse Publications service in 1992. Well, fwiw, something ~akin~ to "urn:dns-date" may have come up in the past, but as far as I and google, altavista, & ask-jeeves are concerned, it's only explicitly been mentioned in the context of our (SSTC) mailing lists and documents. > The observation is that > ownership of a DNS name can be transfered. Therefore to 'fix' the semantics > of the name it is necessary to extend the name with the date. .... Yes, seemingly. BUT, there's tons of issues involved in defining such a namespace. They've recently been discussed in excruciating detail in the "tag" URI scheme doc (http://www.taguri.org/) and especially in the LONG thread on the uri@w3.org mailing list, begining with the msg: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2001Apr/0013.html For example, in said thread, Michael Mealing (of Network Solutions) points out.. > Speaking semi-authoritatively here: [DNS records are] not kept in any > consistent way. I think most companies keep their records for a few years > as a simple matter of legal prudence. But there is no permanent record of > who owned what domain on what date... So, I really think that the best, most reasonable, widely-understood thing we can use for an issuer identifier is an otherwise unadorned, "absolute" DNS domain name (see RFC1034; aka a "Fully-Qualified [DNS] Domain Name", aka a "FQDN"). And we should conciously realize that doing so will provide implementors and deployers significant latitude for "tying into other infrastructures". To borrow from draft-eastlake-uri-fqdn-param-00.txt... Extensive Domain Name System facilities such as wildcards, CNAME, MX [RFC 1035], SRV [RFC 2782], and DNAME [RFC 2672] provide much flexibility in mapping subdomains, services, and hosts to each other. JeffH
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