Agenda for Focus subgroup 31 July 2001 telecon

[Jeff Hodges <jhodges@oblix.com>]

Meeting date: Tuesday, 31 Jul 2001
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           US/Pacific     9am-11am

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ACTION items
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ACTION: Prateek to do traceability review before the next TC telecon.
- definitely in wait-state, gated by consensus draft from F2F #3.
- draft-sstc-{core,protocol}-discussion-01 contain some or all of this
  traceability work?

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ACTION: Eve to create master bibliography and provide bibliography section
for document guidelines.
- In wait-state. Eve has sent to JeffH draft bib section guidelines for comment,
otherwise this is in wait-state as she's on vacation for much of Jul
- Jeff will intersperse his comments and send to group and Eve. will endevor to
do this by 10-Aug. 

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ACTION: Marlena to champion DS-1-02, Anonymity Technique, and confer with
BobB and Phill.
- In progress. Marlena has initiated thread(s) on the list wherein this is
discussed explicitly, in terms of an "opaque identifier". Please read the
thread & provide feedback (Marlena is on vacation, and should be back 
mid-Aug)

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ACTION: Prateek to champion DS-3-03, ValidityDependsUpon.
- In wait-state. Prateek will take this up as we come to closure on core-12 et
al. 

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ACTION: Jeff to champion DS-4-02, XML Terminology, aka Messages and
Packaging.
- in queue. 

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ACTION: Hal to take Jeff's work on classification and composition of identifiers
and "take it a step further". 
- in progress.

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ACTION: Tim Moses to call out some details from draft-sstc-protocols-00 in the
context of the revival of ISSUE:[UC-1-05:FirstContact]
see:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/security/docs/draft-sstc-protocols-00.pdf

This item was brought up in the 10-Jul SSTC/Focus meeting, in the "Open mike"
section, entitled "Prateek: revival of (ISSUE:[UC-1-05:FirstContact])"; see..
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/200107/msg00049.html

- in wait-state.

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ACTION:  Phill, Prateek, Chris, and Dave (although Dave is on vacation)
to create core 11 (including stuff from the discussion docs 
described above and Phill's comments) that Prateek, Chris, David 
and Phill can agree upon amongst themselves. 

  draft-sstc-core-12, 
  draft-sstc-schema-{assertion,protocol}-12, 
  daft-sstc-{core,protocol}-discussion-01

  ..were issued to the list last Fri 27-Jul and are presently in the SSTC doc
repository.


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ACTION: Hal to comb thru core-12 (was core-10) post issuance and identify those
issues that he feels it addresses (as a way to try cull the open issues in the
Issues doc). see:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/security/docs/draft-sstc-saml-issues-04.pdf


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ACTION: JeffH to solicit the list for input on the abaove F2F #4 options.

In-progress.




===============
Open discussion
===============

Have folks had time to read & absorb the "core-12 et al" documents:

  draft-sstc-core-12, 
  draft-sstc-schema-{assertion,protocol}-12, 
  daft-sstc-{core,protocol}-discussion-01

??

General discussion of them is not "on the agenda" for this meeting *unless* a
preponderance of folks indicate they have read them in detail and are prepared
with specific questions. 

Rather, the chair wishes to invite the core-12 et al co-authors to point out any
succinct, important facets or issues of this doc set that readers should be
aware of and/or carefully consider. 

We propose to open the "floor" to the core-12 co-authors for this after the next
three items..


1. F2F #4 planning

- do we have a decision on where, when, and duration of the next F2F? 

  advice: do we need to "officially" ratify the evite poll results on the 
  "official" SSTC concall next week 7-Aug? JeffH is thinking yes, in part
  because those voting in aggregate for the leading [date,duation,location] 
  tuple doesn't constitute a quorum. 

  Can the prospective F2F #4 host handle the prospective uncertainty for 
  another week?

  Once we have [date,duation,location] officially decided, the co-chairs will
  issue an Evite "invite" to the SSTC voting membership, prospective members, 
  and active observers. 


2. Are there any discussion threads on the list that need more discussion or
clarification?


3. Does anyone have any *new*, burning, technical issues to raise?




4. Points of interest in core-12 et al [core-12 co-authors]





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Overall Issues and concerns
===========================

Item: How to prioritize issues resolution?  

Current issues list is -04:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/security/docs/draft-sstc-saml-issues-04.doc

Open issues (plus any waiting to be added by Hal; how current is this list?):

UC-1-05: FirstContact (p. 13)
UC-2-05: EMarketplace (p. 29)
UC-7-01: Enveloping (p. 56)
UC-7-02: Enveloped (p. 56)
UC-8-02: IntermediaryAdd (p. 58)
UC-8-03: IntermediaryDelete (p. 61)
UC-8-04: IntermediaryEdit (p. 63)
UC-8-05: AtomicAssertion (p. 65)
UC-9-01: RuntimePrivacy (p. 67)
UC-9-02: PrivacyStatement (p. 67)
UC-13-07: Hailstorm Interoperability (p. 85)
DS-1-01: Referring to Subject (p. 86) BobB?
DS-1-01: Anonymity Technique (p. 86) Marlena
DS-3-01: DoNotCache (p. 88) Hal
DS-3-02: ClockSkew (p. 88) Hal
DS-3-03: ValidityDependsUpon (p. 88) Prateek
DS-4-01: Top or Bottom Typing (p. 89) Dave
DS-4-02: XML Terminology (p. 89) Jeff
DS-4-03: Assertion Request Template (p. 89) (Tim/Dave initially)
DS-4-04: URIs for Assertion IDs (p. 89) (Jeff initially)

[others to add?]




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