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Subject: Minutes for Telecon, Tuesday 19 August 2003

Minutes for SSTC Telecon, Tuesday 19 August 2003
Dial in info: +1 865 673 3239  #238-3466
Minutes taken by Steve Anderson


    - none, not quorate meeting
  Previous Action Items Still Open:
    - #0054 Prepare analysis of Liberty 1.1 and SAML 2.0 work items
    - #0055 Draft Goal Statement for SAML 2.0
    - #0013: Request use of WS-Trust for CC Proposal

  New Action Items:
    - Chairs to update F2F location info on SSTC homepage
    - Jahan to create FAQ
                             Raw Notes

> Agenda:
> 1. Roll call

- Attendance attached to bottom of these minutes
- Quorum NOT achieved
- call will be focus group only

> 2. Accept minutes from previous meeting, 5 August
>    < http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/
>      200308/msg00026.html >

- not quorate meeting, cannot vote

> 3. Change of venue for SAML 2.0 F2F
>    Meeting to be held at RSA facilities in Bedford, MA. Description follows
>    at END of agenda.
>    For some reason (WHY?) the Kavi message archive is unable to process
>    Rob's message describing the facilities.

- Eve: need to update F2F info on homepage
- [ACTION] Chairs to update F2F location info on SSTC homepage
- Eve: will also update her security personnel in case anyone shows up at Sun

> 4. Preliminary agenda for the F2F has been published
>    < http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/
>      200308/msg00047.html >
>    Comments and discussion are invited.

- Prateek: crammed lots into first day's agenda
- Jeff & Scott will lead Liberty discussion
- Prateek: had sent Ron message on handling WSS SAML Token profile
- Ron is out on vacation currently, and hasn't responded
- will have Patrick Harding from Fidelity to provide implementation info
- Scott: will try to get RLBob to provide some Internet2 implementation info
- Prateek: day 2 will be SAML 2.0 work
- agenda probably needs more definition
- XACML folks will have side meeting on Tuesday to agree on their SAML change
- will cover on day 3
- Hal: hoped we (XACML) would have that worked out in advance

> 5. Summary of Editorial discussions
>    < http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/
>      200308/msg00042.html >

- Eve had to drop off
- leave this topic for now

> 6. Open Action Items
>    #0054 Prepare analysis of Liberty 1.1 and SAML 2.0 work items
>    Eve Maler
>    Draft has been published and is available in the document repository:
>    sstc-saml-scope-2.0-draft-0.2.doc 

- Eve has published
  < http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/security/
    download.php/3195/sstc-saml-scope-2.0-draft-02.doc >
- Question: are there any Liberty use cases lying around?
    - will need to be reviewed
- Frederick: LECP in particular seems to not be covered
    - (essentially non-browser-based SSO profiles in Liberty)
    - needs to be a work item
    - Frederick will to champion
    - Jahan willing to help on this also
- Scott: we'll probably want to subdivide some of these items as we go
- Prateek: folks will need to look at this doc and decide which items are 
  important to them

>    #0055: Draft Goal Statement for SAML 2.0
>    Jeff Hodges

- Jeff posted a rev
- will do more work on it this week

>    #0013: Request use of WS-Trust for CC Proposal
>    Maryann Hondo

- Hal: thinks we should close this
- Jeff: agrees
- Hal: we should go ahead with our work, and worry about convergence later

> 7. Any other business

- Hal: FAQ?
    - Prateek: had been part of editorial work Eve was doing
    - Krishna had mentioned working on this on list
    - Jahan: will do it if Krishna doesn't
    - [ACTION] Jahan to create FAQ
    - Jeff: we have a draft from long ago
    - other TC's could be looked at for guidance
    - Hal: there were 5 questions in email on Chair's list
    - [forwarding to SSTC list now]
    - believes deadline moved to 2 Sept
    - need quick answers to obvious questions first, and can be more verbose
      and thorough later
    - Jahan: will turn around by Thursday, since vacation will follow
- Jahan: there was discussion 2 weeks ago concerning randomness
    - Jahan had sent a reaction email
      < http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/
        200308/msg00027.html >
    - John Linn: agreed with that email
    - Jahan: will add that to errata
- Prateek: has published F2F attendance ballot
- Prateek: 

> 8. Adjourn

- Adjourned
- Next meeting 2 Sept

RSA Facilities for SAML 2.0 F2F Meeting:
It turns out that the room that Eve was able to arrange for our f2f at the
Sun campus in Burlington, MA may not be large enough based on the projected
attendance. So we've decided to move the meeting a couple of miles
(literally) down the road to the RSA Security facility just across the town
line in Bedford, MA.  We have a large multi-function room that can be
configured as needed.

We hope this won't inconvenience anyone, but we wanted the meeting to be as
productive as possible which might not be the case if the room was a bit

The F2F meeting will be held at:
            RSA Security
            174 Middlesex Turnpike
			Bedford, MA 01730

Dates/times (all Eastern, obviously):

Monday, September 8, 10am-5pm
Tuesday, September 9, 9am-5pm
Wednesday, September 10, 9am-noon
(telecon arrangements and times to be announced separately)

We will be doing some type of group activity (probably dinner) on Tuesday
night, as well.

Directions are also available at:
            http://www.rsasecurity.com/company/directions.html - Click on
the "Bedford" facility link

If you've already made hotel reservations based on Eve's info, you should
still be okay.  All of the hotels she mentioned are also listed in the
attached document and are reasonably close.

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