Subject: FW: FW: [security-services] FW: SSTC charter change?
Definitive statement from Karl re: voting requirements for OASIS TC charter clarification... -----Original Message----- From: Karl F. Best [mailto:email@example.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:56 PM To: Philpott, Robert Cc: 'Mishra, Prateek' Subject: Re: FW: [security-services] FW: SSTC charter change? Start with the number of voting members (29) in order to determine the number required as quorum at a meeting (15). If you have 15 members in attendance then you have quorum. Then, once you have quorum, you need 2/3 of those present (and no more than 1/4 against) in order to pass. -Karl Philpott, Robert wrote: > Hi Karl... > > You and I discussed this matter in a phone conversation on 21-Oct and you > followed up with me in email. Mike McIntosh made a claim on the con-call > today that our charter clarification vote taken on 14-Oct with a result of > 19 yes and 2 no votes did not pass since the TC had 29 voting members on > that date. There were 21 voting members on the con-call that day. So it > appears that others are somewhat confused (as was I) by the wording in the > TC process document (see below) as to the meaning of the 2/3 requirement. > You explained quite clearly to me that following RROO, it is 2/3 of those > present at the vote (which clearly makes much more sense); NOT 2/3 of the > total TC voting membership. > > Would you please provide me with a definitive statement that I can pass > along to the TC regarding the voting requirement for a charter > clarification. I recommend making a clarification to the process document > since this has come up a couple of times now. > > Thanks! > > Rob Philpott > RSA Security Inc. > The Most Trusted Name in e-Security > Tel: 781-515-7115 > Mobile: 617-510-0893 > Fax: 781-515-7020 > mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Philpott, Robert > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:26 PM > To: 'email@example.com' > Subject: [security-services] FW: SSTC charter change? > > Since Mike McIntosh raised this issue during the call today... > > Here is part of an email exchange that I recently had with Karl re: the > voting requirements for a TC charter clarification. I had also thought the > 2/3 applied to total TC membership. He emphatically stated that was not > correct. > > The current TC process states "Approval for clarification shall require at > least 2/3 of the total membership of a TC voting to approve and no more than > 1/4 voting to disapprove." This is actually worded a bit ambiguously. > Based on my conversation with Karl, the "...total membership..." > actually refers to the membership that is present at the quorum-valid > meeting where the vote is taken. > > I will ask Karl to please confirm this and I will post his response to the > list. I will also recommend that the TC process document be clarified. > > > Rob Philpott > RSA Security Inc. > The Most Trusted Name in e-Security > Tel: 781-515-7115 > Mobile: 617-510-0893 > Fax: 781-515-7020 > mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karl F. Best [mailto:email@example.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:45 PM > To: Philpott, Robert > Cc: 'firstname.lastname@example.org' > Subject: Re: SSTC charter change? > > [Rob] <other discussion deleted> > > We discussed this on the phone, but I'll review in writing. > > The motion to approve a charter revision requires 2/3 vote, which is not > the same thing as 2/3 of all voting members. If you follow Robert's, in > order to conduct business you've first got to have a quorum present. In > your case, majority of 29 eligible, so 15 present. Then, of the members > present, you must have 2/3 and no more than 1/4 against. > > Since you had 21 present you had quorum (15 or more present). Then 2/3 > of those present would be 14 (2/3 or 21). > > Since you had 14 or more votes in the affirmative, and less than 6 (1/4 > of 21) then this passes. > > [Rob] <other discussion deleted> > > -Karl > > > ================================================================= > Karl F. Best > Vice President, OASIS > office +1 978.667.5115 x206 mobile +1 978.761.1648 > email@example.com http://www.oasis-open.org > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the > OASIS TC), go to > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/security-services/members/leave > _workgroup.php. > > -- ================================================================= Karl F. Best Vice President, OASIS office +1 978.667.5115 x206 mobile +1 978.761.1648 firstname.lastname@example.org http://www.oasis-open.org