RE: [security-services] Reminder: please review contributor listsand send updates

["Beach, Michael C" <michael.c.beach@boeing.com>]

I agree with John.  Several folks contributed substantially more time
and effort above and beyond the general active membership.  They deserve
additional recognition. I believe this industry recognition is a
substantial motivation for assuming a leadership role in standards
development.  Without leaders, no standards.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: John Kemp [mailto:john.kemp@nokia.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 7:20 AM
To: ext Anthony Nadalin
Cc: Eve L. Maler; 'security-services@lists.oasis-open.org'
Subject: Re: [security-services] Reminder: please review contributor
listsand send updates

Hi Tony,

I believe that the entire TC is already acknowledged in a separate
"acknowledgements" page. I have to admit I don't know what other OASIS
TCs have done, or whether they even all do the same thing, but it seems
to me that the following things are actually quite important (based on
my experience as an editor both here and elsewhere):

1) Active contributors of actual text should be acknowledged separately
from general TC acknowledgements. I think the reasons for that are
two-fold - i) because contributing actual specification text and/or
substantial comments on specification text generally requires quite a
lot of thought over some sustained period of time - thus, I think these
contributors should be noted for their additional work and ii) I think
it's also important to tell the public which companies were actively
involved in writing the specifications.

2) If a specification is largely based on a previous specification, I
think that the previous editors (if different than the current editors)
should be listed as contributors, as they have basically written most of
the text previously.

I certainly agree that the contribution lists should be as inclusive as
possible. I think also that it is not only possible, but only proper to
distinguish between those who have submitted substantive or substantial
pieces of text for the specifications from those who have contributed
during TC meetings.

It would certainly be nice, however, if there was some stated (and
perhaps OASIS-wide) policy on what the editor and contributor lists
really meant.

Cheers,

- JohnK

ext Anthony Nadalin wrote:

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>I think that the contributor list should apply to the current version 
>not past versions, so this should be cleaned up. Most other TCs list 
>all current voting members as contributors since a what  is a 
>"contribution" is hard to judge. Lots of folks have contributed in the 
>meetings but not on list or via editing.
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>When I prepare the Committee Draft versions, I will fill in the 
>Acknowledgments sections of all the specs with the list of current 
>members (and we will update it at the OASIS Standard stage).  On the 
>title pages of all the specs, we still have lists of contributors; if 
>you think your name should appear as a contributor because you either 
>sent in major comments or contributed some wads of text that were 
>incorporated by an editor, just let me and Rob know.  And if you 
>literally edited one of the specs but didn't put your name on as an 
>editor, let us know that too.  Thanks!
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>(Note to Maryann: I sent you a wrong description of the purpose of the 
>contributor list earlier; the one above is the correct one..)
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