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Subject: Re: [security-services] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revisionof TC Process

So, my initial reaction was to emphatically agree with Rob's comments,
but I took a further look and see that the issue isn't as significant
as it may at first seem.

In the proposed TC Prcess, there are 3 types of people who may be
associated with a TC:

    * A Voting Member (someone who maintains voting rights)
    * A Member (someone who doesn't maintain voting rights, but
      does participate in the list and discussions, meetings, etc.)
    * An Observer (a lurker).

So, someone who does not want to vote (or just can't maintain the
voting status) can continue to participate heavily by just being
a (non-voting) Member.

Most of us had previously used the "Observer" status for this kind of


Philpott, Robert wrote on 10/12/2004, 6:25 PM:

 > I would like to express serious concerns with the proposed change to the
 > TC process that means that TC observers would no longer be able to post
 > to the TC's mailing list.
 > >From the current process: "An Observer may participate in TC discussions
 > and post email messages to the TC list, but may not vote and does not
 > need to maintain attendance."
 > >From the proposed process: "Observer" (or "TC Observer") is an Eligible
 > Person who is subscribed to the TC email list, and may attend TC
 > meetings, but is not allowed to participate in TC email list
 > discussions, participate or speak in TC meetings, or make Contributions
 > to the TC. The process for becoming an Observer is defined in the
 > section "TC Membership and Participation".
 > I STRONGLY disagree with making this change.  The SSTC has over 260
 > members, of which 40-50 are active voting members.  However, our TC
 > regularly receives valuable input on email discussion topics from
 > members that don't have currently active voting status.  These postings
 > are from folks such as those in other TC's that monitor our list because
 > those TC's have some dependency on ours. Requiring folks to find some
 > other mechanism to provide their input simply throws up barriers in
 > front of them and will in all likelihood result in us not receiving that
 > input at all.
 > The input from these members is very important to us.  I believe this to
 > be a bad change of policy that goes against the open, free exchange of
 > ideas that we rely on.
 > Rob Philpott
 > Senior Consulting Engineer
 > RSA Security Inc.
 > Tel: 781-515-7115
 > Mobile: 617-510-0893
 > Fax: 781-515-7020
 > mailto:rphilpott@rsasecurity.com
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org]
 > > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:10 AM
 > > To: members
 > > Subject: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC
 > Process
 > >
 > > OASIS members:
 > >
 > > You're aware that the OASIS Board of Directors has been working on a
 > > revision of the OASIS IPR Policy, and you have had an opportunity to
 > > give feedback on that proposed revision.
 > >
 > > The Board has also been working on a revision of the OASIS TC Process,
 > > the document that governs the creation and operation of TCs at OASIS,
 > > and the advancement and approval of the work they do. This revision
 > > includes changes suggested by TC chairs, the Technical Advisory Board
 > > (TAB), and other members. It also includes changes required to support
 > > the new IPR Policy; because these two documents rely on each other
 > they
 > > must be revised, approved, and become effective at the same time.
 > >
 > > The Board has approved an OASIS member review of the revised Process;
 > > this review will start today and go until 10 November. A draft of the
 > > revised TC Process document approved for member review by the Board is
 > > found at
 > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members-
 > > only/download.php/9623/TC%20Process%2020041007.pdf.
 > >
 > >
 > > A document summarizing the changes from the current Process is at
 > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members-
 > > only/download.php/9621/Process%20revision%20summary.pdf
 > >
 > > Please send your comments in regards to these proposed changes to
 > > tcproc-member-review@lists.oasis-open.org by 10 November, so that the
 > > Board can consider your comments, make changes to this draft, and have
 > > the Process document ready to be effective at the same time as the new
 > > IPR Policy.
 > >
 > > -Karl
 > >
 > > =================================================================
 > > Karl F. Best
 > > Vice President, OASIS
 > > office  +1 978.667.5115 x206     mobile +1 978.761.1648
 > > karl.best@oasis-open.org      http://www.oasis-open.org
 > >
 > >
 > >
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