RE: [security-services] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC Process

[<Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com>]

Yes, being a non-voting member seems to alleviate the concern, if I read
Rob's concern correctly, while enabling appropriate licensing
obligations to be created.


regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia 

-----Original Message-----
From: ext Conor P. Cahill [mailto:concahill@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:28 AM
To: Philpott, Robert
Cc: karl.best@oasis-open.org; chairs@lists.oasis-open.org;
security-services@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [security-services] RE: [members] OASIS member review of
proposed revision of TC Process

So, my initial reaction was to emphatically agree with Rob's comments,
but I took a further look and see that the issue isn't as significant as
it may at first seem.

In the proposed TC Prcess, there are 3 types of people who may be
associated with a TC:

    * A Voting Member (someone who maintains voting rights)
    * A Member (someone who doesn't maintain voting rights, but
      does participate in the list and discussions, meetings, etc.)
    * An Observer (a lurker).

So, someone who does not want to vote (or just can't maintain the voting
status) can continue to participate heavily by just being a (non-voting)
Member.

Most of us had previously used the "Observer" status for this kind of
participation.

Conor

Philpott, Robert wrote on 10/12/2004, 6:25 PM:

 > I would like to express serious concerns with the proposed change to
the  > TC process that means that TC observers would no longer be able
to post  > to the TC's mailing list.
 >
 > >From the current process: "An Observer may participate in TC
discussions  > and post email messages to the TC list, but may not vote
and does not  > need to maintain attendance."
 >
 > >From the proposed process: "Observer" (or "TC Observer") is an
Eligible  > Person who is subscribed to the TC email list, and may
attend TC  > meetings, but is not allowed to participate in TC email
list  > discussions, participate or speak in TC meetings, or make
Contributions  > to the TC. The process for becoming an Observer is
defined in the  > section "TC Membership and Participation".
 >
 > I STRONGLY disagree with making this change.  The SSTC has over 260
> members, of which 40-50 are active voting members.  However, our TC  >
regularly receives valuable input on email discussion topics from  >
members that don't have currently active voting status.  These postings
> are from folks such as those in other TC's that monitor our list
because  > those TC's have some dependency on ours. Requiring folks to
find some  > other mechanism to provide their input simply throws up
barriers in  > front of them and will in all likelihood result in us not
receiving that  > input at all.
 >
 > The input from these members is very important to us.  I believe this
to  > be a bad change of policy that goes against the open, free
exchange of  > ideas that we rely on.
 >
 > Rob Philpott
 > Senior Consulting Engineer
 > RSA Security Inc.
 > Tel: 781-515-7115
 > Mobile: 617-510-0893
 > Fax: 781-515-7020
 > mailto:rphilpott@rsasecurity.com
 >
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org]  > > Sent:
Monday, October 11, 2004 10:10 AM  > > To: members  > > Subject:
[members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC  > Process  > >
> > OASIS members:
 > >
 > > You're aware that the OASIS Board of Directors has been working on
a  > > revision of the OASIS IPR Policy, and you have had an opportunity
to  > > give feedback on that proposed revision.
 > >
 > > The Board has also been working on a revision of the OASIS TC
Process,  > > the document that governs the creation and operation of
TCs at OASIS,  > > and the advancement and approval of the work they do.
This revision  > > includes changes suggested by TC chairs, the
Technical Advisory Board  > > (TAB), and other members. It also includes
changes required to support  > > the new IPR Policy; because these two
documents rely on each other  > they  > > must be revised, approved, and
become effective at the same time.
 > >
 > > The Board has approved an OASIS member review of the revised
Process;  > > this review will start today and go until 10 November. A
draft of the  > > revised TC Process document approved for member review
by the Board is  > > found at  > >
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members-
 > > only/download.php/9623/TC%20Process%2020041007.pdf.
 > >
 > >
 > > A document summarizing the changes from the current Process is at
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members-
 > > only/download.php/9621/Process%20revision%20summary.pdf
 > >
 > > Please send your comments in regards to these proposed changes to
> > tcproc-member-review@lists.oasis-open.org by 10 November, so that
the  > > Board can consider your comments, make changes to this draft,
and have  > > the Process document ready to be effective at the same
time as the new  > > IPR Policy.
 > >
 > > -Karl
 > >
 > > =================================================================
 > > Karl F. Best
 > > Vice President, OASIS
 > > office  +1 978.667.5115 x206     mobile +1 978.761.1648
 > > karl.best@oasis-open.org      http://www.oasis-open.org
 > >
 > >
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