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Subject: Untrusted Service Provider Profile


I'd love to see a SAML model where an SP can trust an IDP, but an IDP doesn't necessarily trust an SP.  This is much more like the OpenID model.  But there is no reason SAML cannot do this.

Here is how I'd see it:  
1. An unknown/untrusted SP sends a signed authentication request to a trusted IDP.  
2. The IDP looks up the metadata of the SP (it must be available online and on a secure endpoint such as https).  
3. The IDP verifies that the metadata and the request come from the same provider.  
4. The IDP sends the assertion.

This certainly can be done within existing spec, but it mandates several things that are optional in the spec.  Should this be formalized as a profile?  Are people interested in such a profile?

- Cameron Morris





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