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Subject: RE: Proposed Minutes for SSTC Telecon (Tuesday 15 April 2014)


Adding roll call for 4/15/2014 meeting:

Cantor, Scott
Hardjono, Thomas
Hirsch, Frederick
Hoerbe, Rainer
Klingenstein, Nathan
La Joie, Chad
Lockhart, Hal

Quorum was achieved.


/thomas/
____________________________________________



> -----Original Message-----
> From: security-services@lists.oasis-open.org
> [mailto:security-services@lists.oasis-open.org]
> On Behalf Of Nate Klingenstein
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:14 PM
> To: OASIS SSTC
> Subject: [security-services] Proposed Minutes for
> SSTC Telecon (Tuesday 15 April 2014)
>
> > AGENDA:
> >
> > 1. Roll Call & Agenda Review.
> >
> > 2. Need a volunteer to take minutes.
>
> Nate volunteered.
>
> > 3. Approval of minutes from previous
> meeting(s):
> >
> >   - Minutes from SSTC Call on 18 March 2014:
> >
> > https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-
> services/201403/msg0000
> > 9.html
> >
> > Adding Roll Cal for 3/18/2014 Meeting:
> >
> > Cantor, Scott
> > Hardjono, Thomas
> > Hirsch, Frederick
> > Klingenstein, Nathan
> > La Joie, Chad
> > Lockhart, Hal
> > Saldhana, Anil
> > Young, Ian
> >
> > Quorum was achieved.
>
> The link to the minutes and the roll call were
> sent separately due to delays in the OASIS email
> archiving system.
>
> Quorum was achieved for this call as well.  Chad
> moved to approve the minutes and Hal seconded.
> There were no objections and the minutes were
> adopted.
>
> >  (c) SAML 2.1 work (Chad)
> >      - SAML2.1 wiki:
> >        https://wiki.oasis-
> open.org/security/SAML2Revision
> >
> >      - Chad's list:
> >        https://wiki.oasis-
> open.org/security/SAML21
> >
> >      - Sample ToC for an SSO Profile:
> >        https://wiki.oasis-
> open.org/security/SAML21ExampleProtocol
> >
> >      - Chet created starter docs:
> > https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-
> services/201403/msg0001
> > 0.html
>
> Nate committed to write the overview portion of
> the SAML 2.1 specification revision.
>
> Chad has been looking at the other work that is
> necessary and coming up with a general approach
> to doing the refactoring.  He wants to ensure he
> starts in the right place and then he'll begin
> transferring content from the original 2.0
> documents to the new 2.1 documents and put out a
> working draft once he has something in those new
> documents.
>
> That will be the first round of effort.  It will
> initially not read very well because it will be
> copy/pasted material, but it will allow us to
> understand whether the general approach is
> correct.  Later rounds of effort will involve
> clarifications, better text, and inclusion of
> approved errata.
>
> The TC wants to re-emphasize that SAML 2.1 is
> purely a rewrite of the specification to make it
> more intelligible for deployers.  Conformance
> classes may be re-examined, and other
> specifications published by the TC may be rolled
> in to the document, and so forth.  However, wire-
> level and schema compatibility with SAML 2.0 will
> be guaranteed.
>
> >  (d) Conceptual/overview of Metadata (Rainer
> Hoerbe)
> >      - Further Steps thread. Any updates?
> >
> > https://www.oasis-
> open.org/apps/org/workgroup/security/document.php
> ?do
> > cument_id=50362
>
> This document is intended as guidance.  Rainer is
> not sure whether the SSTC is the right place to
> publish a guidance document.  Nate pointed out
> that deployment profiles generally aren't
> standardized in the SSTC, but Hal noted that
> overviews had been published by the SSTC in the
> past, could be published as non-normative
> documents known as "committee notes".
>
> Chad noted that some of the material might be
> valuable in the overview text of the normative
> 2.1 metadata specification.  Nate suggested that
> publication of the document as it stands now
> would make sense, since a lot of the work that
> has been done post-2.0 will be evaluated as to
> whether it should be rolled into the 2.1
> documents anyway.
>
> The process for approval and publication of a
> committee note is the same as the process for
> specifications.
>
> Rainer will get templates, put the document into
> proper form, and carry it forward to the SSTC for
> initial approval voting.
>
> >  (e) XSPA updates (Mohammad Jafari)
> >     - Any updates?
>
> Mohammad wasn't present.
>
> > 6. Other items:
> >   - Email from Jack Verhoosel - EU Standards
> using SAML2.0.
>
> Nate lamented the lack of channels by which we
> could reach out to the deployment community to be
> explicit about the intent and scope of the SAML
> 2.1 work and suggested that we do the best with
> communication channels we have, such as minutes.
>
> Hal suggested reaching out in return to ask
> whether anything could be done to help the EU
> deploy SAML 2.0.
>
> > 7. Next SSTC Call:
> >   - Tuesday 29 April 2014
>
> We look forward to speaking with you then.
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