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Subject: Question about OASIS SET tools
Dear Dr. Asuman and Erdem,
I could install your software and get a mapping result. Thank you for your help.I have a few questions and issues about the solution as follows:
First question is: When the software finds a multiple mapping, it shows that "x GS1 and y UBL matches found". Can it also find which pair of elements are mapped among x GS1 and y UBL elements ?
For example, in the mapping result between GS1's and UBL's "Trade Item Location Profile" messages, the software finds a equality mapping between "PartyIdentification.Primary_Identification.GLN_Identifier" a element of GS1 and "PartyIdentification.Identifier" a element of UBL. And it shows the detail result such as "4 GS1 and 2 UBL matches found", but doesn't show that which pair of elements among 4 GS1 and 2 UBL elements can be mapped.
The found 4 GS1 elements' node paths are as follows:
1. Trade Item Management Profile.Details -> Trade Item Management Profile.Profile.Trade Item Management -> ... -> Collaborative Item.Buyer Location.Party -> Party Identification.Details -> PartyIdentification.Primary_Identification.GLN_Identifier
2. Trade Item Management Profile.Details -> Trade Item Management Profile.Profile.Trade Item Management -> ... -> Collaborative Item.Seller Location.Party -> Party Identification.Details -> PartyIdentification.Primary_Identification.GLN_Identifier
3. Trade Item Management Profile.Details -> Trade Item Management Profile.Inheritance_Association -> ... -> Plan Document.Buyer.Party Identification -> Party Identification.Details -> PartyIdentification.Primary_Identification.GLN_Identifier
4. Trade Item Management Profile.Details -> Trade Item Management Profile.Inheritance_Association -> ... -> Plan Document.Seller.Party Identification -> Party Identification.Details -> PartyIdentification.Primary_Identification.GLN_Identifier
Also, 2 UBL elements' node paths are
1. Trade Item Location Profile.Details -> ... -> Information Request Trade Item.Buyer_Custmer -> Customer Party.Details -> ... -> PartyIdentification.Identifier
2. Trade Item Location Profile.Details -> ... -> Information Request Trade Item.Seller_Supplier -> Supplier Party.Details -> ... -> PartyIdentification.Identifier
I think the first and third elements in GS1 can be mapped to first in UBL and second and third in GS1 can be mapped to second in UBL. Can the iSURF aproach identify these kinds of mapping ? I am thinking how to improve iSURF approach by finding these kinds of mapping.
The second issue isSome mapping items retrieved by "Load Equality List" are in neither GS1 nor UBL schemas. For example, in the mapping of GS1's and UBL's Focast messages, I couldn't find any mapping item among the retrieved equality list. When I clicked "Find Equivalences" in the right button menu, it shows a error such as "Index '0' specified is out of bounds".
Thank you.Best Regards,
Jaewook Kim
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Erdem Alpay <erdem@srdc.com.tr> wrote:
Hi Nenad,
OASISSET.zip file which is in
( http://www.srdc.metu.edu.tr/iSURF/OASIS-SET-TC/tools/OASISSET.zip )
is now obsolete. If you want to setup yourself, you can find the updated
version in the following link:
http://www.srdc.metu.edu.tr/iSURF/OASIS-SET-TC/tools/ISU-latest.zip
The installation guide is inside the "docs" folder in the zip file.
If you prefer to use the tool interface directly, it is already deployed
on one
of our servers. You can reach it from the following link:
MailScanner warning: numerical links are often malicious: http://144.122.230.66:9090/ISU/web
You can find information about using this interface in the iSurf
Deliverable
that Prof. Dogac previously sent to you.
I am at your disposal for any further information you might need.
Best regards,
Erdem
Nenad Ivezic wrote:
> Hi Asuman:
>
> Thanks for the pointers.
> Last time we talked about us here taking look at SET, you mentioned
> that you were still working on the tools.
> Is the link below to the OASISSET.zip file the right place from which
> to install the tools?
> As soon as Kim returns, I would like to start looking into the SET
> deliverables.
>
> Best regards,
>
> - Nenad
>
>
> Prof. Dr. Asuman Dogac wrote:
>> Hi Kim,
>>
>> You will find the information you need in the following
>> iSURF Deliverable.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Asuman
>>
>> Kim, Jaewook wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Dr. Asuman,
>>>
>>> I appreciate your help.
>>> I couldn't find the SET TC Deliverable from OASIS SET TC site, but
>>> could download the tool using the following link:
>>> http://www.srdc.metu.edu.tr/iSURF/OASIS-SET-TC/tools/OASISSET.zip
>>> And, do you have the UBL and GS1 schemas that SET tools used for the
>>> mapping ? I think the schemas will be very useful to review the SET
>>> approach and review my research.
>>>
>>> I will be out of office from now to Aug 13th, so I may not be able
>>> to check your message.
>>> Thank you.
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Prof. Dr. Asuman Dogac [asuman@srdc.metu.edu.tr]
>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:31 AM
>>> To: Kim, Jaewook
>>> Cc: Ivezic, Nenad; Prof. Yun Peng; erdem@srdc.com.tr;
>>> senan@srdc.com.tr; suat@srdc.com.tr
>>> Subject: Re: Question about OASIS SET tools
>>>
>>> Dear Kim,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your email and your interest in SET TC work.
>>> Indeed, SET Harmonized ontology discovers the equivalences
>>> of structurally similar elements; not only BBIEs but also ABIEs.
>>> For structurally different elements we resort to providing rules.
>>>
>>> Additionally, in finding the similar BBIEs we also have a heuristic
>>> rule
>>> equating 3 of the 14 data types because that is the way
>>> they are used in real life. We use the similarity of "Property Terms"
>>> to rank the results.
>>>
>>> You can download the tools and try them by yourself.
>>> For the tools, Erdem, Suat or Senan can provide you help.
>>> All the information is available in the SET TC Deliverable
>>> at the SET TC site. If you have difficulty in downloading
>>> it let me know I will send you.
>>>
>>> Enclosed please also find a paper describing our work.
>>>
>>> Once again thank you and best regards,
>>>
>>> Asuman
>>>
>>> Jaewook Kim wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Dr. Asuman,
>>>>
>>>> I am a guest researcher at NIST working with Nenad. Nenad gave me a
>>>> slide about OASIS SET-TC approach because it seems like a related
work
>>>> to my research which is to discover mappings between two XML schemas
>>>> (without upper-ontology). I reviewed the slide and have a few
>>>> questions as follows:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Can the SET Harmonized Ontology approach discover mappings between
>>>> the structured artifacts ? (e.g., mapping between ABIE and ABIE) I
>>>> think the SET Harmonized Ontology is only useful to discover the
>>>> mappings between atomic elements which are the leaf of the schema
>>>> tree, so the SET Heuristic Rules are used to discover mappings
between
>>>> the structured artifacts, am I right ?
>>>>
>>>> 2. If the schema contains multiple BBIEs in different location
(please
>>>> look at the attached slide), can the SET Heuristic Rules discover the
>>>> mapping correctly ? In the attached slide, the gray lines are
>>>> discovered mapping by SET Harmonized Ontology and red lines are
>>>> correct mapping.
>>>>
>>>> I am investigating if my research can help the schema mapping problem
>>>> that SET approach is dealing with. I hope I can get an additional
>>>> information.
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jaewook Kim
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Nenad Ivezic <nivezic@nist.gov>
>>>> Date: Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:29 PM
>>>> Subject: A potential problem for your PhD work
>>>> To: Jaewook Kim <jaewook@nist.gov>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kim:
>>>> I promised to send you material to provide a problem that may be a
>>>> basis for your PhD work.
>>>> Take a look at
>>>>
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/30793/Updated.20090121SE
T-TC.ppt
>>>>
>>>> and in particular slide 39 and let me know if this problem in your
>>>> view could be attacked by your methodology.
>>>> Let me know what you think.
>>>> - Nenad
>>>> ps. This is also effort headed by our friends in Turkey and I
believe
>>>> they would be interested to share data.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> PS. Please note the change in the phone and fax numbers. Thank you.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
__________________________________________________________________________
__
>>>
>>> Professor Asuman Dogac email: asuman@srdc.metu.edu.tr
>>> WWW: http://www.srdc.metu.edu.tr/~asuman/
>>> Director Phone: +90 (312) 210 1393, or
>>> Software R&D Center +90 (312) 210 1763
>>> Department of Computer Eng. Fax: +90 (312) 210 1837
>>> Middle East Technical University
>>> 06531 Ankara Turkey skype: adogac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> PS. Please note the change in the phone and fax numbers. Thank you.
>>
>>
>
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