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Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] Re: Publish-Find-Bind and Mediation


I would like to answer the following question in the
RA

--- Ken Laskey <klaskey@mitre.org> wrote:

> So the key point is whether it works in an automated
> fashion.  But if 
> I have Google Desktop installed and submit a query,
> how does this 
> apply?  It can search my files and my emails.  If I
> am using Gmail 
> and assign one or more tags to an email and the
> Gmail functions can 
> search it later, how does that apply?  Does it
> matter if I manually 
> enter the search criteria or a script is the
> immediate initiator?
> 
> I don't have answers but a lot of questions.  The
> initial vision of 
> the service registry is still a part of most
> people's SOA elevator 
> speech but it has yet to be effectively used (i.e. I
> have found 
> gaping holes in the "success" stories I've read and
> have heard far 
> more in the way of complaints).  Maybe it also fails
> to answer many 
> of the questions.
> 
> Ken
> 
> At 11:37 AM 8/17/2006, Danny Thornton wrote:
> >The landing pad for a SOA reference implmentation
> is
> >an electronic registry that becomes a point of
> action
> >in the SOA.  The email folder that collects e-mails
> on
> >ontology tools is not a point of action in the SOA
> >because it is not acting in an automated fashion
> with
> >the SOA.  A UDDI registry or ebXML registry could
> be
> >an electronic registry that is a point of action in
> >the SOA.
> >
> >Danny
> >
> >--- Ken Laskey <klaskey@mitre.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Danny,
> > >
> > > This really depends on what we mean by an
> electronic
> > > registry.  For
> > > example, I have an email folder where I collect
> > > emails on ontology
> > > tools.  I can browse or do string searches on
> the
> > > contained
> > > emails.  To what extent am I making use of an
> > > electronic
> > > registry?  The email client does deal with
> > > electronic media but is
> > > not marketed as a registry any more than is a
> pack
> > > of Post-It
> > > notes.  On the other hand, I have created Excel
> > > spreadsheets with
> > > similar types of information and know people who
> > > would do it in an
> > > Access database.  At what point do these become
> > > electronic registries?
> > >
> > > When does it matter?
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > At 09:36 AM 8/17/2006, Danny Thornton wrote:
> > > >Ken,
> > > >
> > > >The Publish-Find-Bind describes three levels of
> > > >registries: a personal regsitry, a group
> registry,
> > > and
> > > >a global registry.  In one of our SOA telecons
> we
> > > >agreed that a registry is more specific than a
> > > >mediator.  The use of mediator/registry and SOA
> > > >discovery has an implication of an electronic
> > > >mechanism to perform discovery.  Could a
> personal
> > > >registry include the use of an electronic
> registry?
> > > >The reason I ask is because some form of
> electronic
> > > >mediation is the landing pad for a reference
> > > >implementation.
> > > >
> > > >Danny
> > > >
> > >
> >__________________________________________________
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> > >
> > >
>
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> > >    /   Ken
> > > Laskey
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> --
>      
>
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>    /   Ken 
> Laskey                                              
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> 
> 


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