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Subject: [SPAM] Re: [soa-rm-ra] random question


I tend to agree with Ken that the stakeholders in the
SOA sense will be those things not to distantly
related to the service consumer/provider.  If we
continued on with the analogy that the manufacturers
of equipment (like the computers the services run on)
are stakeholders then the conclusion would be
everything in the universe is a stakeholder.

As another example of "Is the government that collects
a tax or regulates a stakeholder?" - 
Are a group of policy deciders considered stakeholders
in the SOA and is it legitimate to consider the policy
deciders as policy providers even though they
themselves may never interact with a SOA service?  I
would consider SOA Policy deciders as stakeholders
that provide SOA policy and the Policy deciders are
not accessed through a service.

Danny

--- Ken Laskey <klaskey@mitre.org> wrote:

> Michael,
> 
> My question is whether there are providers in the
> SOA sense for  
> something other than services.  For example, one
> could say there are  
> data providers but wouldn't they have their data
> sources accessed  
> using services?  Does that apply to all providing
> stakeholders?
> 
> Ken
> 
> On Aug 23, 2006, at 6:58 PM, Michael Stiefel wrote:
> 
> > Aren't users of the services stakeholders?
> >
> > Aren't manufacturers of equipment stakeholders?
> >
> > Is the government that collects a tax or regulates
> a stakeholder?
> >
> > Aren't the "victims" we discussed at the F2F
> stakeholders as well?
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > At 05:57 PM 8/23/2006, Ken Laskey wrote:
> >> Can we have stakeholders who are providers or
> maintainers of  
> >> something other than services?  Or, do we assume
> by the nature of  
> >> SOA that if you provide something other than a
> service, that  
> >> something is a capability that must have a
> service access, so you  
> >> always end up a service provider?
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
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