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Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] Service participants
Continuing thread with agreed upon items removed. If you don't agree where Danny did, feel free reinsert. Jeff - I'll try service description through wiki but don't want to transcribe this now. Frank - I believe you own service participant. Should I (at some later point) modify the wiki or do you want to do it? Ken On Oct 11, 2006, at 10:40 AM, Danny Thornton wrote: > I've added my comments below. Let us know when the > tags get to be too annoying to deal with. > > [snip] > > > <original> > In normal parlance, the service provider commonly > refers to either the ultimate owner of the capability > that is offered or at least an agent acting as proxy > for the owner. > </original> > <suggestion> > Consider adding the following: For example, an > individual may own a simulation program that > encompasses a capability but will enter into an > agreement with another individual (the proxy) to > provide SOA access to that capability. > </suggestion> > > <danny comment> > I don't see the suggestion following the description > for service provider. "Simulation program" lost me. > </danny comment> > Maybe not the best example but I thought motivating the difference between the "ultimate owner of the capability" and a proxy would be useful. Open to suggestions. > > <original> > A service consumer is a participant that actively > engages with a service... > </original> > <suggestion> > For consistency with RM: A service consumer is a > participant that interacts with a service... > </suggestion> > > <danny comment> > "actively engages" provides more meaning than > "interacts". When would the start of a > consumer/producer interaction not be due to the active > engagement on the part of the consumer? > </danny comment> > If as a prospective consumer makes visible a need ("I looking for a business service to find scholarships for my daughter") as part of its description, then prospective providers may initiate the interaction. > > <original> > However, the service consumer normally refers to the > ultimate beneficiary of the use of a service's > capabilities. > </original> > <comment> > This gets back to the comment above about mutual > benefit. The suggestion changes the message but I > believe is still accurate. > </comment> > <suggestion> > However, the service consumer normally refers to the > initiator of the use of a service's capabilities. > </suggestion> > > <danny comment> > If "actively engaged" stayed the same then "ultimate > beneficiary" provides additional meaning. > </danny comment> > "ultimate beneficiary" is shady. You're a multimillionaire looking for a 1964 baseball card to complete your collection and I sell it to you for $5M. Who is the ultimate beneficiary? > <original> > Apart from the mechanical aspects governing how > participants interact with and offer services, it is > important to capture the relationships between > participants that are mediated by services. At its > most basic, this refers to the use of services to > achieve a real world effect: a service is used by a > service consumer in order to achieve a change in the > real world that meets a desired goal. > </orginal> > <comment> > Mutual benefit again. > </comment> > <suggestion> > a service is provided by a provider and used by a > service consumer in order to achieve a change in the > real world that meets a desired goal. > </suggestion> > > <danny comment> > Either description reads ok to me. > </danny comment> > > > [snip] > > <original> > This means that, when the persons acts appropriately, > it is as though the other person or entity performs > the action. In the case of non-human entities, the > only way in which they can perform actions is via the > empowerment of people. > </original> > <suggestion> > Would it be helpful between the two sentences to add: > An example of this is granting someone a power of > attorney. > </suggestion> > > <danny comment> > Agree with example. > <suggestion> > Expand "empowerment of people" to something like > "empowerment of an authorative entity." This goes > back to Ken's last comment. > </suggestion> > </danny comment> > further wordsmithing will be needed but we get the idea. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ Ken Laskey MITRE Corporation, M/S H305 phone: 703-983-7934 7515 Colshire Drive fax: 703-983-1379 McLean VA 22102-7508
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