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Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] How can non-OASIS folks engage with the SOA-RA subcommittee?

Understood. Very much appreciate the clarification.

So, just to close this out:

1) The only official way to get input into SOA-RA work is by joining
2) Contributions to OASIS must abide by OASIS IPR policies relevant to
the SOA-RM. 
3) The only time external folks can provide input and contribute to the
OASIS work is when official drafts are made available for public review.
4) There does not exist a mechanism at OASIS to solicit input on work in
progress, except at the draft stages as noted in (3)

I will make sure that I pass on the opportunity to provide input during
the published draft stages to folks who have pinged me.


- Anil

-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 2:32 PM
To: John, Anil; Francis McCabe
Cc: soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] How can non-OASIS folks engage with the SOA-RA

There are strict rules for this that must be abided by.  Anyone
contributing to the work must agree with the OASIS IPR policies that are
relevant to this group.  They are on the main page.


On 1/9/07 8:27 AM, "John, Anil" <Anil.John@jhuapl.edu> wrote:

> Frank,
> Fully agree with (1).
> As to (2), do we have to wait until the content is in draft status 
> before non-OASIS folks can comment? My assumption is that the publicly

> accessible wiki is not considered draft but simply work in progress, 
> correct? As such if we are not going to not accept input on the work 
> in progress documented on it, would it not make sense to make it NOT 
> accessible to the public?
> Or can we at least make sure that we accept input on an ongoing basis,

> with the caveat that it is up to the committee as to whether or not it

> will be incorporated into the ongoing work?
> Regards,
> - Anil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francis McCabe [mailto:frankmccabe@mac.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:11 AM
> To: John, Anil
> Cc: soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] How can non-OASIS folks engage with the 
> SOA-RA subcommittee?
> Anil:
>   OASIS is not a pay-to-play organization, but there are still rules 
> of engagement.
>   The basic rules of the game are:
> 1. To fully participate, someone has to be a member of OASIS, the RM 
> TC and the RA STC. For an individual, membership of OASIS runs to
> 2. Once the committee starts publishing drafts, members of OASIS are 
> free to submit comments and issues. (We are not going to turn down a 
> comment or issue from a non-OASIS member unless it is egregious.) 3.
> Once the committee publishes a public working draft, all members of 
> the public may submit comments and issues.
> Frank
> On Jan 9, 2007, at 7:49 AM, John, Anil wrote:
>> Given our discussion at the F2F on getting wider community input into

>> our work, I blogged about the Governance piece @ 
>> <http://www.aniltj.com/blog/2007/01/03/
>> OASISSOARAAStartingPointForGovern
>> ance.aspx>
>> Alternate Link @ http://tinyurl.com/sw64e
>> A question that has come up in the comments, and from some folks who 
>> have pinged me directly is, how can they engage with the committee at

>> large? I am pretty much scoping the RA topic on my blog to governance

>> as that is something that I have a great deal of interest in and am 
>> willing to act as a conduit for the committee on that topic.  But 
>> there are folks who have expressed interest in topics beyond 
>> governance. How can we accommodate them?
>> Please note that I am making a point of informing the folks that the 
>> blog is a secondary channel for communication and that the primary 
>> channel is to directly engage with OASIS (if a member). But what if 
>> you are NOT an OASIS member? Is the public SOA-RM Comment List @ 
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?
>> wg_abbrev=soa-rm
>> something that can be used for this purpose? Or should there be a 
>> public SOA-RA comments listserv that can be created?
>> Would appreciate some discussion on how this can be accomplished 
>> within the parameters given by OASIS.
>> Regards,
>> - Anil
>> :-
>> :- Anil John
>> :- Johns Hopkins University - APL
>> :- http://www.jhuapl.edu
>> :- (240) 228-0612
>> :-
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>> :-

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