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Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] Updated Visual Model for Service Description


This is off topic from federations, but JAXR is
implemented for Sun's Service Registry.  Sun's Service
Registry is one registry we are using for the Feb demo
that Rex mentioned.  I have that up and going at:

http://www.integratedresponseservices.net:6480/soar

Everything you can do with JAXR as a client app you
can do through the Registry web console.

I am now trying to figure out how our RA meta-model
fits into the ebXML RIM model which is what is
referenced in section 4 of the JAXR document.  If
anyone is interested, here is a link to the 3.0
version of the ebXML RIM document:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/regrep/v3.0/specs/regrep-rim-3.0-os.pdf

The ebXML Registry Information Model does define a
federation object but that is to federate an entire
registry with another registry.  I think federation at
this level is too course grained to solve a lot of the
cross ownership boundary issues that will be common to
the majority of people who jump into a SOA-ecosystem. 
There are multiple granularity levels that the
federation problem can be approached from.   

Federation is an important concept and I wanted to get
other input about its placement in relation to our RA
Service Description.

Danny
 
--- "Jeffrey A. Estefan"
<jeffrey.a.estefan@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> Danny,
> 
> Where are you going with this federation business???
> 
> Are you proposing something along the lines of the
> Federated Enterprise 
> Reference Architecture (FERA) model?
> 
>
http://xml.coverpages.org/SemantionSOA-Runtime200509.pdf
> 
> (See Section 3.0)
> 
> There was a big play in the ebXML world on this
> (see, e.g., 
> http://www.ebxmlsoft.com/papers/ebxml-fera.pdf) and
> I saw it go nowhere when 
> I attended the OASIS Symposium up in San Francisco a
> few years ago.  There 
> were briefings from the ebSOA TC folks and, again,
> it has gone absolutely 
> nowhere.  In fact, I have not seen it referenced
> anywhere outside this 
> community or even the analyst community.
> 
> I'm really worried that once again, we're getting
> distracted and we NEED TO 
> FINISH THE RA!!!!!!  Our work has gone one far too
> long in my opinion.  We 
> need to stay focused as a razor.
> 
> If you're looking to build out a tool for your
> registry/repository, then you 
> should leverage the various service metadata
> information models (IMs) out 
> there.  The IM described in JSR 93 (JAXR) is one of
> the best I've seen.  And 
> it supports both UDDI and ebXML standards.  I've
> attached a copy of the 
> original spec.  Check out Section 4 and in
> particular, Fig. 11, which 
> provides a UML class diagram depicting the IM.
> 
> Cheers...
> 
>  - Jeff E.
> 
> >
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