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Subject: Fwd: Re: [soa-rm-ra] reaching closure on Action
I neglected to hit "reply-to-all" so I'm forwarding to the sc list. Cheers, Rex >Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:54:57 -0700 >To: Francis McCabe <frankmccabe@mac.com> >From: Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com> >Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] reaching closure on Action >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >This works for me. > >2. I prefer Joint Action as subclass of Action, but would not >quibble with particular use. > >Cheers, >Rex > > >>I believe that there are 4 'concepts' of action involved: >> >>1. The abstract sense of Action. Application of intent etc. >>2. Abstract Joint Action (which is either a subclass of Action or a >>particular use of Action; not sure of the right relationship). >>3. Communicative Action (which is a subclass of Abstract Joint Action) >>4. Service Action which is an Action against a Service (which is >>described in the Action Model and the Process Model) >> >>3. and 4. are connected via the counts-as relationship: >> >>A valid Communicative Action counts as a Service Action >> >>At some level, all of these should be introduced and explained in Section 3. >> >>Frank >> >> >> >>On Jun 6, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Ken Laskey wrote: >> >>>Dear Fellow Explorers, >>> >>>We've had some very stimulating discussions over the past few >>>weeks but I feel there are other things caught in limbo until we >>>reach some consensus. I don't think we are plagued by major >>>disagreements but rather the different facets of complexity for >>>the range of things we want to capture and make understandable to >>>a wider audience. >>> >>>So I think we need a plan for how to proceed. The elements of >>>such a plan would cover >>>1. capturing the different facets; >>>2. capturing where in the document these facets currently live; >>>3. work a consistent understanding that covers all the facets. >>> >>>Unfortunately, this is not an 80-20 situation because a standard >>>that only covers 80% of the scope is looking for trouble. >>> >>>Now I would suggest an extended call (all day?) but I realize we >>>are all busy and that may not be feasible. What's more is it may >>>not be productive unless we have all the background material >>>together going in. >>> >>>As a precursor to an extended meeting (or even a regular meeting), >>>is it possible for us to have a short list of questions and for >>>the author of each section to satisfy items 1 and 2 above through >>>the answers? Would that be enough to help structure a productive >>>(and hopefully not too long) call? >>> >>>I haven't yet considered the questions, but figured I'd float the >>>idea and see if someone came up with something better. >>> >>>Ken >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>Ken Laskey >>>MITRE Corporation, M/S H305 phone: 703-983-7934 >>>7515 Colshire Drive fax: 703-983-1379 >>>McLean VA 22102-7508 >>> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >>generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all your TCs in OASIS >>at: >>https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > > >-- > >Rex Brooks >President, CEO >Starbourne Communications Design >GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison >Berkeley, CA 94702 >Tel: 510-898-0670 -- Rex Brooks President, CEO Starbourne Communications Design GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison Berkeley, CA 94702 Tel: 510-898-0670
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