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Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] SOA-RA(F) reorganization
Jim: I have been working on a reorganization of the governance/management/policy and management sections per the instructions of last Wednesday. It is nearly complete. I will be forwarding it by a Week from next Wednesday. Bob -----Original Message----- From: James Odell [mailto:email@jamesodell.com] Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 8:39 PM To: soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] SOA-RA(F) reorganization Rex, Yes, I agree. A section for Policies outside Contract -- in addition to the leaving a Policies and Contracts -- makes good sense to me. Ciao, Jim On 4/11/09 7:41 PM, "Rex Brooks" indited: > Than ks Jim, > > I agree about Policies pertaining to more than just contracts. I think > our focus on crossing organizational boundaries tends to make us think > along those lines more than we would if we were more focused within an > enterprise boundary. Role policies, for instance, are more routine > within an enterprise, and rules for what happens when events are > reported are often more prescribed. > > I'd just add a section for Policies outside Contract context. > > Cheers, > Rex > > At 5:46 PM -0400 4/11/09, James Odell wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> After yet another reading of the SOA-RA (Foundation?) and having sat >> through the recent spate of meetings, I have the following say about >> the reorganization of the SOA-RA: >> >> Overall, I think that the chapters and topics are sequenced in a >> coherent and logical manner. Perhaps, it is because I read it too >> many times now. But, I don't think so. >> Also, I understand the need to minimize the amount of work needed on >> the SOA-RA at this point in its development. We need to get it >> released for public comment - without compromising quality and >> understandability, of course. >> Having said this, the only thing that bothers me enough to suggest a >> reorganizational change is the area of Policies: >> >> 1) Policies, in general, are depicted in document far earlier than >> they are finally addressed (by 40-50 pages). Since policies - IMO - >> are an important ingredient in the SOA-RA, I would like to see them >> addressed earlier. (My personal opinion is that policies are not >> mentioned anywhere near the amount that they should. For example, >> they are used in events, composition of services, roles, and >> organizations. However, since this would involve additions to the >> current document, I will not push this) >> >> 2) I strongly dislike grouping the entire topic with contracts. >> While policies are used for contracts, Policy is a standalone concept >> - which neither depends on nor is used solely with Contract. >> (Even the OMG and W3C treat policies as a separate notion.) Why is >> this reasonable? Because policies are used in a variety of >> situations - only one of which is contracts. By placing Policies in >> lock step with (and almost subordinate to) with Contracts is not >> appropriate, IMO. >> >> 3) My suggestion: separate Policies and Contracts into two distinct >> subsections (e.g., 4.4 and 4.5). >> >> In short, this would provide clarity for the notion of Policy and not >> require much change to the current document. >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Jim > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php
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