Re: [soa-rm-ra] Another diagram

[Duane Nickull <dnickull@adobe.com>]

Title: Re: [soa-rm-ra] Another diagram

Risk is part of the context in which trust is being extended IMO.  For Ken, the risk that his wife will return with a Brad Pitt flick instead of a good action movie might not be motivation enough for his to venture to the video store in –20 degree weather.

D


On 5/14/09 3:50 AM, "James Odell" <email@jamesodell.com> wrote:

> Excellent point, Ken.  Knowing the Risk is important: at least for defining the “degree” of trust.
>
> -Jim
>
>
> On 5/14/09 3:22 AM, "Ken Laskey" indited:
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> > That's why in the Trust and Risk diagram, both are connected to the RWE because both are different for $20 or $100K.  Without that connection, there is no context, and I believe that context has to be in the model.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > On May 13, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Duane Nickull wrote:
> >
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  On 5/13/09 5:07 PM, "Ken Laskey" <klaskey@mitre.org> wrote:
> > >  
> > >  
> > > > However, in the concert with additional Evidence, it may just be evidence of sloppy decision making or insanity.
> > > >  
> > > Or someone setting you up for a bigger con.  Think of how pool sharks operate.  I was more than confident I could beat some people at snooker in a bar as evidenced by my performance in the first games.  When beers were bet, all of a sudden the outcomes seemed to change.
> > >  
> > >  In eBusiness, an ASP might be trusted to provide a certain set of business services up to a specific point yet when a threshold is crossed, the trust diminishes.  I would trust a courier to take a $20 bill across town on a bike but would generally not give him $100,000 cash.
> > >  
> > >  I am not sure how to capture this though.  IT is much harder than I ever imagined.
> > >  
> > >  D
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