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Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] Comments on Section 5.4 SOA Testing Model
By coincidence, I've just finished reviewing an NCOIC Service Interface Pattern, a solution model. In that Pattern we are specifying that a Service Interface (mostly user-facing at this point though I have lodged an issue asking for an API version for aggregators/integrators) MUST supply a test harness. I capped the word "must" as an RFC 2119 Conformance Statement. So my position wrt RAF is that the foundation for a testing requirement at the solution level is required. However, I don't want it to be specified as thoroughly as it is currently. I think we have overspecified, and if we leave it this way, I will have to recommend that the testing piece of the RAF not be followed in its entirety but only to the extent that it can be used as the basis for a test harness. I think software engineers know how to build test harnesses, or else I would recommend against using whomever does not have that capability. Note, the Services WorkGroup is currently using and recommending the RAF, so I'd rather not have to start equivocating about how to use it, but if that's necessary, that's what I'll have to do. Cheers, Rex On 11/9/10 10:10 PM, Danny Thornton wrote: > I am grappling with the idea of a testing model being foundational to a reference architecture. For me, a test model is more closely related to a type of realization of a reference architecture. > > There are a lot of good relationships made between IEEE-829 and SOA Testing. I have a strong opposition to the implication that Service Mocks are required for testing. In the real world, it is often the case that test access to a service uses the same service as production access to the service. This is mentioned in the beginning of section 5.4, I would emphasize this again in relation to service mocks. > > Danny > > --- On Tue, 11/9/10, Ken Laskey<klaskey@mitre.org> wrote: > >> From: Ken Laskey<klaskey@mitre.org> >> Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] services in the ecosystem >> To: "'Francis McCabe'"<fmccabe@gmail.com> >> Cc: soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org >> Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 5:11 PM >> The definition is in the RM. >> The interpretation of the RM definition for >> extension to the ecosystem is here. >> >> Ken >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Dr. Kenneth Laskey >> MITRE Corporation, M/S H305 >> phone: 703-983-7934 >> 7515 Colshire Drive >> >> fax: >> 703-983-1379 >> McLean VA 22102-7508 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Francis McCabe [mailto:fmccabe@gmail.com] >> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:40 PM >> To: Laskey, Ken >> Cc: soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org >> Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] services in the ecosystem >> >> I still do not see a definition of service here >> On Nov 9, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Ken Laskey wrote: >> >>> Boris, Michael, and I (with some input from Jeff) have >> been working with >>> wording from the RM and extending it to better cover >> the concept of >> services >>> in the ecosystem. The attached is the result of >> that collaboration. We >>> believe this responds to the need to ground the term >> service in the >> present >>> work without introducing yet another definition to the >> already abundant >>> confusion. Given we approached this task with >> different concerns, I am >>> pleased that we came to a satisfactory agreement and >> hope the rest of you >>> will agree. >>> >>> >>> >>> On behalf of those who contributed to this, >>> >>> >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Dr. Kenneth Laskey >>> >>> MITRE Corporation, M/S H305 >> phone: 703-983-7934 >>> 7515 Colshire Drive >> >> fax: >>> 703-983-1379 >>> >>> McLean VA 22102-7508 >>> >>> >>> >>> <service in the ecosystem 20101109PM.doc> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > > >
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