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Subject: FW: [ontolog-forum] Fwd: [New post] The Newest from SOA: The SOA Ontology Technical Standard
Heather Kreger's blog entry on the SOA Ontology was passed to the Ontolog Forum list and elicited the response below. I'll let folks know if the topic heats up. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Kenneth Laskey MITRE Corporation, M/S H305 phone: 703-983-7934 7515 Colshire Drive fax: 703-983-1379 McLean VA 22102-7508 -----Original Message----- From: ontolog-forum-bounces@ontolog.cim3.net [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@ontolog.cim3.net] On Behalf Of Todd J Schneider Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 6:53 PM To: [ontolog-forum] Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Fwd: [New post] The Newest from SOA: The SOA Ontology Technical Standard To all concerned or interested the SOA ontology put forth by the Open Group is rubbish for many reasons. I provided several pages of comments and justifications to an earlier draft and almost all of my comments were not accepted. However, there is some value in this work. It can be used as an example of errors that are commonly made. Finally, I'd like to commend Chris Harding in his efforts to reconcile very divergent views and opinions. Todd From: Ed Dodds <dodds@conmergence.com> To: ontolog-forum@ontolog.cim3.net Date: 12/14/2010 06:46 PM Subject: [ontolog-forum] Fwd: [New post] The Newest from SOA: The SOA Ontology Technical Standard Sent by: ontolog-forum-bounces@ontolog.cim3.net FYI Ed Dodds Collaboration Strategist Conmergence.com dodds@conmergence.com (615) 657-9359 ed_dodds_skype ed.dodds@googlewave.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: clifford thompson <cliff@ontosolutions.com> Date: Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:03 AM Subject: Fwd: [New post] The Newest from SOA: The SOA Ontology Technical Standard To: Jim buckner <" James.Buckner"@state.ma.us>, kevin.x.geminiuc@kp.org, Services Oriented Architecture <soa@lists.hl7.org>, Steve Connolly < stconnoll@msn.com>, "phil.barr@thomsonreuters.com" < phil.barr@thomsonreuters.com>, Jobst Landgrebe < jobstlandgrebe@googlemail.com> Hi, FYI Cliff Best Regards, Clifford Thompson CTO OntoSolutions LLC 704.257.4422 cliff@ontosolutions.com http://ontosolutions.com http://semanticarch.com/wordpress -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [New post] The Newest from SOA: The SOA Ontology Technical Standard Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:42:42 +0000 From: Open Group Blog <no-reply@wordpress.com> To: cliff@ontosolutions.com The Newest from SOA: The SOA Ontology Technical Standard The Open Group Blog | December 8, 2010 at 5:42 am | Tags: architect, communication, enterprise, IT, Open Group, organizations, OWL, SOA, SOA Ontology, SOA standards, SOA Work Group | Categories: Cloud/SOA | URL: http://wp.me/p1cB5i-1L By Heather Kreger Open Group just announced the availability of the SOA Ontology Technical Standard. Ontology?? Sounds very ‘semantic Web,’ doesn’t it? Just smacks of reasoning engines. What on earth do architects using SOA want with reasoning engines? Actually, Ontologies are misunderstood — an Ontology is simply the definition of a set of concepts and the relationships between them for a particular domain — in this case, the domain is SOA. They don’t HAVE to be used for reasoning… or semantic Web. And they are more than a simple glossary which defines terms, because they also define relationships between them — something important for SOA, we thought. It’s also important to note that they are more formal than Reference Models, usually by providing representations in OWL (just in case you want to use popular tools for Ontology and reasoners). What would an architect do with THIS ontology? It can be used simply to read and understand the key concepts of SOA, and more importantly, a set of definitions and UNDERSTANDING of key concepts that you can agree to use with others in your company and between organizations. Making sure you are ‘speaking the same language’ is essential for any architect to be able to communicate effectively with IT, business, and marketing professionals within the enterprise as well as with vendors and suppliers outside the enterprise. This common language can help ensure that you can ask the right questions and interpret the answers you get unambiguously. It can be used as a basis for the models for the SOA solution as well. In fact, this is happening in the SOA repository standard under development in OASIS, S-RAMP, where they have used the SOA Ontology as the foundational business model for registry/repository integration. The Ontology can also be augmented with additional related domain-specific ontologies; for example, on Governance or Business Process Management… or even in a vertical industry like retail where ARTS is developing service models. In fact, we, the SOA Ontology project, tried to define the minimum, absolutely core concepts needed for SOA and allow other domain experts to define additional details for Policy, Process, Service Contract, etc. This Ontology was developed to be consistent with existing and developing SOA standards including OMG’s SOA/ML and BPMN and those in the Open Group SOA Workgroup: SOA Governance Framework, OSIMM, and the SOA Reference Architecture. It seems it would have been good to have developed this standard before now, but the good news is that it is grounded in extensive real-world experience developing, deploying and communicating about SOA solutions over the past five years. The Ontology reflects the lessons learned about what terms NOT to use to avoid confusion, and how to best distinguish among some common and often overused concepts like service composition, process, service contracts, and policy and their roles in SOA. Have a look at the new SOA Ontology and see if it can help you in your communications for SOA. It’s available to you free at this link: http://www.opengroup.org/bookstore/catalog/c104.htm Additional Links: SOA Work Group: http://www.opengroup.org/soa, publishes the SOA Ontology, SOA Governance Framework, OSIMM (Service Integration Maturity Model), and SOA Reference Architecture SOA Ontology project: http://www.opengroup.org/soa/projects/ont.htm#_Ontologies_for_SOA SOA Repository Artifact Model and Protocol (S-RAMP), http://s-ramp.org, http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=s-ramp OMG, http://www.omg.org, publishes the SOA/ML and BPMN standards work Heather Kreger is IBM’s lead architect for Smarter Planet, Policy, and SOA Standards in the IBM Software Group, with 15 years of standards experience. She has led the development of standards for Cloud, SOA, Web services, Management and Java in numerous standards organizations, including W3C, OASIS, DMTF, and Open Group. Heather is currently co-chair for the Open Group’s SOA Work Group and liaison for the Open Group SOA and Cloud Work Groups to ISO/IEC JTC1 SC7 SOA SG and INCITS DAPS38 (US TAG to ISO/IEC JTC 1 SC38). Heather is also the author of numerous articles and specifications, as well as the book Java and JMX, Building Manageable Systems, and most recently was co-editor of Navigating the SOA Open Standards Landscape Around Architecture. Add a comment to this post WordPress.com | Thanks for flying with WordPress! Manage Subscriptions | Unsubscribe | Publish text, photos, music, and videos by email using our Post by Email feature. Trouble clicking? 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