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Subject: FW: [ontolog-forum] Fwd: [New post] The Newest from SOA: The SOA Ontology Technical Standard


Heather Kreger's blog entry on the SOA Ontology was passed to the Ontolog Forum list and elicited the response below.  I'll let folks know if the topic heats up.

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From: ontolog-forum-bounces@ontolog.cim3.net [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@ontolog.cim3.net] On Behalf Of Todd J Schneider
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 6:53 PM
To: [ontolog-forum] 
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Fwd: [New post] The Newest from SOA: The SOA Ontology Technical Standard

To all concerned or interested the SOA ontology put forth by
the Open Group is rubbish for many reasons. I provided several
pages of comments and justifications to an earlier draft and 
almost all of my comments were not accepted.

However, there is some value in this work. It can be used as 
an example of errors that are commonly made.

Finally, I'd like to commend Chris Harding in his efforts to
reconcile very divergent views and opinions. 

Todd



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To:
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Date:
12/14/2010 06:46 PM
Subject:
[ontolog-forum] Fwd: [New post] The Newest from SOA: The SOA    Ontology 
Technical Standard
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FYI

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From: clifford thompson <cliff@ontosolutions.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:03 AM
Subject: Fwd: [New post] The Newest from SOA: The SOA Ontology Technical 
Standard
To: Jim buckner <" James.Buckner"@state.ma.us>, kevin.x.geminiuc@kp.org, 
Services Oriented Architecture <soa@lists.hl7.org>, Steve Connolly <
stconnoll@msn.com>, "phil.barr@thomsonreuters.com" <
phil.barr@thomsonreuters.com>, Jobst Landgrebe <
jobstlandgrebe@googlemail.com>


Hi,

FYI

Cliff
Best Regards,

Clifford Thompson
CTO 
OntoSolutions LLC 
704.257.4422
cliff@ontosolutions.com
http://ontosolutions.com
http://semanticarch.com/wordpress



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Subject: 
[New post] The Newest from SOA: The SOA Ontology Technical Standard
Date: 
Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:42:42 +0000
From: 
Open Group Blog <no-reply@wordpress.com>
To: 
cliff@ontosolutions.com



The Newest from SOA: The SOA Ontology Technical Standard 
The Open Group Blog | December 8, 2010 at 5:42 am | Tags: architect, 
communication, enterprise, IT, Open Group, organizations, OWL, SOA, SOA 
Ontology, SOA standards, SOA Work Group | Categories: Cloud/SOA | URL: 
http://wp.me/p1cB5i-1L 
By Heather Kreger
Open Group just announced the availability of the SOA Ontology Technical 
Standard.
Ontology?? Sounds very ‘semantic Web,’ doesn’t it? Just smacks of 
reasoning engines. What on earth do architects using SOA want with 
reasoning engines?
Actually, Ontologies are misunderstood — an Ontology is simply the 
definition of a set of concepts and the relationships between them for a 
particular domain — in this case, the domain is SOA.
They don’t HAVE to be used for reasoning… or semantic Web. And they are 
more than a simple glossary which defines terms, because they also define 
relationships between them — something important for SOA, we thought. It’s 
also important to note that they are more formal than Reference Models, 
usually by providing representations in OWL (just in case you want to use 
popular tools for Ontology and reasoners).
What would an architect do with THIS ontology? 

It can be used simply to read and understand the key concepts of SOA, and 
more importantly, a set of definitions and UNDERSTANDING of key concepts 
that you can agree to use with others in your company and between 
organizations. Making sure you are ‘speaking the same language’ is 
essential for any architect to be able to communicate effectively with IT, 
business, and marketing professionals within the enterprise as well as 
with vendors and suppliers outside the enterprise. This common language 
can help ensure that you can ask the right questions and interpret the 
answers you get unambiguously.
It can be used as a basis for the models for the SOA solution as well. In 
fact, this is happening in the SOA repository standard under development 
in OASIS, S-RAMP, where they have used the SOA Ontology as the 
foundational business model for registry/repository integration.
The Ontology can also be augmented with additional related domain-specific 
ontologies; for example, on Governance or Business Process Management… or 
even in a vertical industry like retail where ARTS is developing service 
models. In fact, we, the SOA Ontology project, tried to define the 
minimum, absolutely core concepts needed for SOA and allow other domain 
experts to define additional details for Policy, Process, Service 
Contract, etc.
This Ontology was developed to be consistent with existing and developing 
SOA standards including OMG’s SOA/ML and BPMN and those in the Open Group 
SOA Workgroup: SOA Governance Framework, OSIMM, and the SOA Reference 
Architecture. It seems it would have been good to have developed this 
standard before now, but the good news is that it is grounded in extensive 
real-world experience developing, deploying and communicating about SOA 
solutions over the past five years. The Ontology reflects the lessons 
learned about what terms NOT to use to avoid confusion, and how to best 
distinguish among some common and often overused concepts like service 
composition, process, service contracts, and policy and their roles in 
SOA.
Have a look at the new SOA Ontology and see if it can help you in your 
communications for SOA. It’s available to you free at this link: 
http://www.opengroup.org/bookstore/catalog/c104.htm
Additional Links:
SOA Work Group: http://www.opengroup.org/soa, publishes the SOA Ontology, 
SOA Governance Framework, OSIMM (Service Integration Maturity Model), and 
SOA Reference Architecture
SOA Ontology project: 
http://www.opengroup.org/soa/projects/ont.htm#_Ontologies_for_SOA
SOA Repository Artifact Model and Protocol (S-RAMP), http://s-ramp.org, 
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=s-ramp
OMG, http://www.omg.org, publishes the SOA/ML and BPMN standards work
Heather Kreger is IBM’s lead architect for Smarter Planet, Policy, and SOA 
Standards in the IBM Software Group, with 15 years of standards 
experience. She has led the development of standards for Cloud, SOA, Web 
services, Management and Java in numerous standards organizations, 
including W3C, OASIS, DMTF, and Open Group. Heather is currently co-chair 
for the Open Group’s SOA Work Group and liaison for the Open Group SOA and 
Cloud Work Groups to ISO/IEC JTC1 SC7 SOA SG and INCITS DAPS38 (US TAG to 
ISO/IEC JTC 1 SC38). Heather is also the author of numerous articles and 
specifications, as well as the book Java and JMX, Building Manageable 
Systems, and most recently was co-editor of Navigating the SOA Open 
Standards Landscape Around Architecture.
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