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Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] Re: [SOA-RAF] Interested in helping with Mgmt Model?
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A lot of comments inside. The big one services are not resources lets stop using these two
terms intercheangeably. From: mpoulin@usa.com
[mailto:mpoulin@usa.com] Sure, here you are. - Michael -----Original Message----- Oops, I deleted it in anticipation of the full thing. Can you resend?
Please? From: mpoulin@usa.com
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Oh! I cannot stand such argument. There are two things in my
paper: several fragments from different parts of the doc (with related line
numbers) - you can ignore all of them & the FULL section on Management
Concept - as it was, commented, modified and extended. In this case, you can
take it The Gospel from RAF & Michael; all context is in there. Cheers, - Michael -----Original Message----- Understood, But it still presumes knowing what was there. It’s like you can
always grab enough quotes from Bible to prove that God does not exist From: mpoulin@usa.com
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Boris, I have not merged the changed texts back to the full document
yet. I'do it based on the Jeff's comments soon. Sorry about this. I tried to
extract enough context for each change to justify it. - Michael -----Original Message----- Michael, This is really hard to read. Can you send a doc with the full content From: mpoulin@usa.com
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Hi Jeff, here are two docs attached - one is the commented version and
another one is the version with the comments 'accepted'. What I did, I tried to
merge the Dan's version with my comments. I think that the diagram to be
updated again based on the Dan's additions. Please, let me know if I am moving into the agreed direction. Regards, - Michael -----Original Message----- Michael, I really appreciate taking time to go through the Mgmt model as currently articulated in the RAF but we knew going in that the focus there was by and large too focused on systems management and so that is why we gave Dan Heston the opportunity to write something up, which he did and I've attached to this note. This work was done back in Sept of last year and there are a few e-mail threads on the topic plus some discussion on the calls, but then the topic was unfortunately dropped. Nevertheless, I will review your recommended updates as they look quite well thought out. In the meantime, if you could review Dan's draft update, that would be much appreciated. It is still mission visual (UML) models. Thanks again! - Jeff ________________________________________ From: mpoulin@usa.com [mpoulin@usa.com] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:48 AM To: Estefan, Jeff A (3100) Subject: Re: [SOA-RAF] Interested in helping with Mgmt Model? Jeffrey, as promised, I have reviewed the Management Model section and attached my notes. Since we deal with Management Concept, it influences other Concepts in the document. This required me to look through the entire document and review every occasion where management is mentioned. As a result, I have several notes and proposals for changes in other sections, e.g. in Governance sections, there are references to TOGAF 8.1 which are outdate already due to TOGAF 9.0 available for a year already. Thus, I have extracted all related text fragments into separate document and modified them as needed. The line numbers have been preserved and match the line numbers in the original document. I’ve excluded the fragments that I suggest are correct, do not require modifications and do not raise questions. I have edited the text on two computers and the side notes marked OP... are mine as well as MP. In addition to the text changes, I put some side comments with explanations of my changes and questions. Plus, I added a few small sections such as Service Configuration Manageability, Contracts ( in the Management Contracts and Policies) and new term 'Solution' in the glossary. I've put all manageability items into the new diagram (embedded). I am looking for your comments and an advice on how to proceed from this point: will this work go under your supervision or independently, like Peter/Chris do. Regards, - Michael -----Original Message----- From: Estefan, Jeff A (3100) <jeffrey.a.estefan@jpl.nasa.gov> To: mpoulin@usa.com <mpoulin@usa.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 7, 2011 7:14 pm Subject: [SOA-RAF] Interested in helping with Mgmt Model? Michael, Are you interested in helping with the Management Model? I was planning on reviewing what was originally written in the RAF, which is very sparse and largely focused on system management vs. services as managed entities and then look over what Dan H. put together. That material is missing visual models. I feel this is far too important a concept, particularly its relationship to governance, to simply “punt” and say we are not going to include it in our RAF work. I see it as even more paramount than the Testing Model although I know you and Ken are making headway there. If we can tackle both, great, but we simply cannot punt on Management and only include Testing. Just let me know your thoughts. Regards… - Jeff = The information contained in this communication may be
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