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Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] about "service-oriented business collaborations"


Sorry Michael

+2

Its not transitive

 

From: Mike Poulin [mailto:mpoulin@usa.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:29 PM
To: Lublinsky, Boris; Peter F Brown; soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] about "service-oriented business collaborations"

 

-1

All   _business_  collaborations are services. I did not talk about collaborations in general. This is the _big_ difference.

- Michael

 

----- Original Message -----

From: boris.lublinsky@navteq.com

Sent: 11/10/11 04:38 AM

To: Peter F Brown, Mike Poulin, soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org

Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] about "service-oriented business collaborations"

 

+1

 

 

 

 

 

From: soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Peter F Brown
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 5:16 PM
To: Mike Poulin; soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] about "service-oriented business collaborations"

 

 

 

 

 

Michael,

 

 

I don’t agree. All services are collaborations but not all forms of collaboration are services. Likewise all services may be business “products” but not all products are services.

 

 

Examples:

 

 

-          I collaborate with partners, in different configurations for different projects, and together we provide a service to a client – we do not provide a service to each other.

 

 

-          I produce widgets and sell them to customers. I’m not providing a service, I’m providing a product.

 

 

 

 

 

Peter F Brown

 

 

Independent Consultant

 

 

www.peterfbrown.com

 

 

P.O. Box 49719, Los Angeles, CA 90049, USA

 

 

Tel: +1.310.694.2278

 

 

 

 

 

From: soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Mike Poulin
Sent: Wednesday, 09 November, 2011 12:52
To: soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [soa-rm-ra] about "service-oriented business collaborations"

 

 

 

 

 

Folks,

I am in the conversation with James Bloomberg and has found that the _expression_ "service-oriented business collaborations" is not his and it is not even Lomow's one; it is our creature, and it is agly.

Here is nothing personal but if a business collaboration is not oriented on service, it does not exist (by the definition of collaboration). Alternatevly, please, give me only one example of  business collaboration that would not be oriented on servicing either partners or end-clients. Servicing is the only way how any business makes its revenue.

Thanks,
- Michael

 

 

 

 

 

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Sent: 11/09/11 06:01 PM

 

 

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Subject: [soa-rm-ra] Groups - SOA-RAF-Minutes-Nov-9-2011.doc uploaded

 

 

 

 

 

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