Re: [soa-rm] Definition of "Service Consumer"

[Duane Nickull <dnickull@adobe.com>]

Ken:

I am not 100% sure about this.  I would like to research this on a more 
philosophical basis.  Not all SOA's use explicit security protocols (the 
internet doesn't).  The fundamental philosophical question may be " does 
the explicit statement conveying the absence of any security still imply 
a security model"?

The danger in saying "yes" is that it opens the door for more "things" 
to be part of the RM.

I would like to mull this over and do some research.  I am sure Matt has 
a good answer ;-)

Duane

Ken Laskey wrote:

> Moreover, the question is whether all SOAs SHOULD have security and 
> whether that needs to be captured in the RM.  As noted, secuirty is 
> often just tacked on and that may not be sufficient for *any* SOA to 
> be successful.
>
> Ken
>
> At 02:27 PM 4/11/2005, Duane Nickull wrote:
>
>> The RM does not support security models.  A reference model is used 
>> to guide the design of architecture that may include specific 
>> security protocols or models. Our requirement must be to ensure that 
>> nothing we place in the RM makes any specific security model a 
>> requirement (since not all SOA's have security) and to ensure that we 
>> do not preclude a specific type of security model from being used.
>> Duane
>>
>> Vikas Deolaliker wrote:
>>
>>> I think the question should be how many different types of security 
>>> models
>>> will this RM support?
>>> Vikas
>>>
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