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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Architectural Scope of Reference Model
Christopher: This is too implementation specific. Not all SOA's use the publish-find-bind method. The internet is probably the largest SOA and it has no explicit model other than search engines and DNS (including DNS-SD). We must remain abstract. Duane Christopher Bashioum wrote: >I like the term publication - fits in well with the publish-find-bind, and >captures the essence of what is being done by the service provider. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] >Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:49 PM >To: Duane Nickull; Francis McCabe >Cc: Ken Laskey; Chiusano Joseph; scott@justiceintegration.com; >soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org >Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Architectural Scope of Reference Model > >I have held off commenting on the term advertising simply because I >am biased, due to my long involvement with the practice of >advertising as an art director and designer. I convinced myself that >this different context in some way disqualified my understanding of >the term due to my involvement in the commercial context. However, >having thought about it more, I think I should go ahead and say I >have two point in relation to this term. > >1. The definition of Advertising as a commercial practice as I >understood it has always been: Communication of messages with the >intent of obtaining favorable consideration for the party seeking >such consideration. > >2. I think the term Publication is more accurate since that the >Service Provider is actually doing: providing public information >about the availability of the service. > >Ciao, >Rex > >At 2:27 PM -0700 4/11/05, Duane Nickull wrote: > > >>Francis: >> >>Discovery is described in the WSA from W3C in section 2.3.3.1 very well. >> >>"There are various means by which discovery can be performed. >>Various things - human end users or agents - may initiate discovery. >>Requester entities may find service descriptions during development >>for static binding, or during execution for dynamic binding. For >>statically bound requester agents, using discovery is optional, as >>the service description might be obtained in other ways, such as >>being sent directly from the provider entity to the requester >>entity, developed collaboratively, or provided by a third party, >>such as a standards body." >> >>For something to be discovered, it must first be in a format that >>allows discovery to happen. That is the act of advertising it. >>Discovery happens ONLY after something is available to be discovered. >> >>Duane >> >>Francis McCabe wrote: >> >> >> >>>Is discovery of the essence or advertising? If I discover how to >>>use your service by some kind of reverse engineering -- you did not >>>advertise it but I discovered it -- and can therefore use it! >>>Frank >>> >>> >>-- >>*********** >>Senior Standards Strategist - Adobe Systems, Inc. - http://www.adobe.com >>Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT Bureau Plenary - http://www.unece.org/cefact/ >>Adobe Enterprise Developer Resources - >>http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/developer/main.html >>*********** >> >> > > > > -- *********** Senior Standards Strategist - Adobe Systems, Inc. - http://www.adobe.com Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT Bureau Plenary - http://www.unece.org/cefact/ Adobe Enterprise Developer Resources - http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/developer/main.html ***********
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