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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Security (Re: [soa-rm] Definition of "Service Consumer")


Would this inference be accurate:

A security policy, in addition to other service policies, is part of a 
service contract.  A security policy is a declaration of a set of 
requirements that must be met in order to consume a service.  A 
declaration that indicates no requirements must be met is still 
conceptually considered a security policy.

Duane



Francis McCabe wrote:

> This is how I see it also. The contract represents the syntactic,  
> semantic and pragmatic constraints on the use of a service. That 
> covers  security, and I hope QoS management, etc.
> Frank
>
> On Apr 12, 2005, at 8:08 AM, Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
>
>> Security could be fit into the RM indirectly via "Contract" (or a 
>> less  controversial word, such as "Agreement").  You talking about 
>> refusing  service tweaked this in my brain...
>>
>> "Service use agreement may mandate security requirements to be met,  
>> and if they are not, service may be refused."
>>
>> -matt
>>
>>
>> Anders W. Tell wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is getting interesting so Ill just join in
>>>
>>> There seem to be good reasons why security or maybe more 
>>> appropriate  security related functions could be part of a 
>>> (abstract) RM.  Functions such as (add,verify)integrity, 
>>> (add,verify)confidentiality,  (add,verify)authentication etc.
>>>
>>> If one wants to later relate a RM to economical and legel aspects  
>>> such as those found in service level agreements then such abstract  
>>> function seems relevant.
>>>
>>> The rigth to refuce service access may be a function of  
>>> authenticationverification of issuer, sender ,indended receive,  
>>> addressee.
>>>
>>> So Ill think Ken is right that it maybe a good point keeping it on  
>>> the agenda and removed later if deemed to concrete.
>>>
>>> /Anders
>>>
>>> Ken Laskey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Moreover, the question is whether all SOAs SHOULD have security 
>>>> and  whether that needs to be captured in the RM.  As noted, 
>>>> secuirty is  often just tacked on and that may not be sufficient 
>>>> for *any* SOA to  be successful.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>> At 02:27 PM 4/11/2005, Duane Nickull wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The RM does not support security models.  A reference model is 
>>>>> used  to guide the design of architecture that may include 
>>>>> specific  security protocols or models. Our requirement must be to 
>>>>> ensure  that nothing we place in the RM makes any specific 
>>>>> security model a  requirement (since not all SOA's have security) 
>>>>> and to ensure that  we do not preclude a specific type of security 
>>>>> model from being  used.
>>>>> Duane
>>>>>
>>>>> Vikas Deolaliker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the question should be how many different types of  
>>>>>> security models
>>>>>> will this RM support?
>>>>>> Vikas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --  
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