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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps


I would like to capitalize on the momentum we have to complete the RM 
quickly, so it can be applied sooner than later.  Respectfully, I think 
that it would be foolish for us to "slow down" to accomadate members who 
cannot devote a serious amount of time to this effort.

Thanks,

Matt
Rex Brooks wrote:

> Both.
>
> This is not to say that I think any part of work is wrong or flawed, 
> only that I have not had sufficient time to absorb it.
>
> Rex
>
> At 8:24 AM -0400 5/4/05, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>
>> <Quote>
>
>> I think we will do ourselves a favor if we just slow down to a more 
>> deliberate pace, and let this initial flurry of attention and hype 
>> subside
>
>> </Quote>
>
>>  
>
>> Rex,
>
>>  
>
>> Is your reference to the flurry above regarding activities within our 
>> TC, or externally (the press coverage, etc.)?
>
>>  
>
>> Joe
>
>>  
>
>> Joseph Chiusano
>
>> Booz Allen Hamilton
>
>> Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com <http://www.boozallen.com/>
>
>>  
>
>>
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>     *From:* Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]
>>     *Sent:* Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:18 AM
>>     *To:* soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
>>     *Subject:* [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps
>>
>>     I thought it might be of interest to note that we are now seeing
>>     a bombardment of articles and white papers touting SOA, and
>>     providing models and definitions, which strikes me as very
>>     indicative of the kind of frenzied activity that we see when a
>>     'buzz' word or concept makes the rounds. This is exactly what I
>>     meant when I started working on my recent series of articles on
>>     EA-SOA, Fad or Foundation?
>>
>>
>>     I am not going to post the urls, unless asked since it is a
>>     four-part series and long enough for a short book by itself and
>>     not dedicated to SOA per se, and that is not the thrust of this
>>     message, which is, to be honest counter-intuitive. I would like
>>     us to simply hold off on pushing forward so vigorously that even
>>     if we deliver a spec in record time and letter perfect down to
>>     its manicured toenails, it will be lost in this confusion of
>>     "experts" including my own contribution to the overall "mess."
>>     Also, after having been through several larger efforts to build
>>     standards for more narrowly focused technologies, I begin to
>>     distrust anything that hasn't taken at least a year to work its
>>     way through a vigorous process.
>>
>>
>>     While the editors are to be commended for producing drafts so
>>     quickly, I haven't had the time to properly absorb what is on the
>>     agenda for today's meeting, let alone what the long term
>>     implications and ramifications of these definitions and terms
>>     actually represent. Perhaps as another indication of why I find
>>     this whole topic somewhat alarming for the rapidity with which it
>>     is overtaking both the trade press and the IT providers, I am
>>     actually getting an online demo of an SOA-specific product today,
>>     which I won't bother naming since I haven't had a chance to view
>>     it yet, but the very fact that it pushed its way on to my
>>     schedule after last week and in time to overlap with today's
>>     meeting, which I will attend even if I am not actively discussing
>>     much, supports my point--the hurrier I go the behinder I get.
>>
>>
>>     I think we will do ourselves a favor if we just slow down to a
>>     more deliberate pace, and let this initial flurry of attention
>>     and hype subside while we pore over this in a bit more thorough
>>     way. I recognize that this is unlikely to receive a favorable
>>     reception, but the faster we go, no matter how thorough we think
>>     we are being, the more I am convinced that our work will be
>>     flawed seriously for lack of enough time for our collection of
>>     brains to gain sufficient perspective to view our own enterprise
>>     here in a more balanced and objective way.
>>
>>
>>     However, in the end, what do I know? Not very bleeping much.
>>
>>
>>     Ciao,
>>
>>     Rex
>>
>>
>>
>>>     X-sbi: accucast
>>>     Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 00:56:01 -0700 (PDT)
>>>     From: "Enterprise Applications at TechRepublic.com"
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>>>     Subject: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps
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>>     Rex Brooks
>>     President, CEO
>>     Starbourne Communications Design
>>     GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison
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>>     Tel: 510-849-2309
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>
>
>-- 
>  
>
> Rex Brooks
> President, CEO
> Starbourne Communications Design
> GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison
> Berkeley, CA 94702
> Tel: 510-849-2309




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